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From their own internal metrics, tech giants have long known what independent research now continuously validates: that the content that is most likely to go viral is that which induces strong feelings such as outrage and disgust, regardless of its underlying veracity. Moreover, they also know that such content is heavily engaged with and most profitable. Far from acting against false, harmful content, they placed profits above its staggering—and damaging—social impact to implicitly encourage it while downplaying the massive costs.

Social media titans embrace essentially the same hypocrisy the tobacco industry embodied when they feigned concern over harm reduction while covertly pushing their product ever more aggressively. With the reelection of Trump, our tech giants now no longer even pretend to care.

Engagement is their business model, and doubt about the harms they cause is their product. Tobacco executives, and their bought-off scientists, once proclaimed uncertainty over links between cigarettes and lung cancer. Zuckerberg has likewise testified to Congress, “The existing body of scientific work has not shown a causal link between using social media and young people having worse mental health, ” even while studies find self-harm, eating disorder and misogynistic material spreads on these platform unimpeded. This equivocation echoes protestations of tobacco companies that there was no causal evidence of smoking harms, even as incontrovertible evidence to the contrary rapidly amassed.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They are the asbestos of the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

Getting a dumbphone was one of the best decisions I took in my life. It helps me focus better and read books. I don't actually need the internet with me 24/7. If you really need me, you can call.

Try it. Some people will call you crazy. Just ignore them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

ok but like if I don't have music and noise cancelling earbuds I will explode

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Wait till you find out we still have tobacco companies, and they’ve been getting into the vape and weed game this whole time

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

I've been telling this to family and friends, apparently they didn't want to agree. At least there is article now. I do think current social media will be looked at in future like tobacco/smoking is currently looked at.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Wow. I don't know why I've never made the parallel before, but yes, this is a good way to explain to people the woes of these companies that can be overlooked in the moment but are painfully clear in hindsight.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Y'all, one of the far-reaching Broligarchy ideas they're hoping emerges from the ashes of the United States is the DAO, decentralized autonomous organization.

Every action in the block chain. They facilitate, and are predicated on, the idea of treating every aspect of life as a social network. Everything you do is recorded. So daily life ends up incentived toward constant, persistent, corralled engagement. The Network State is the term.

The difference is that you can't build a society on the mechanics of the tobacco industry. But you can on a human reaction industry.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Even though I knew about most of this, I never realized how striking the parallels are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

My problem with theses giants is they don't provide/publish stats of the current situation of their platform. I can't think of a stat top of mind, but Metadata about posts, users and many more

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The US thrives on negativity 24/7. Its tiresome.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Except, you know, tobacco companies are modern day tobacco companies. They were never defeated.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Muted in the English world. I argue junk food commercials draw a lot of parallels with cigarette commercials of the past. For some reason obesity isn't worth prevention so the advertisements are pretty gross.

Soft drinks. Coca Cola especially really loves to tie emotions and sports/holidays to sugar water.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They were never defeated.

When you say "defeated", what exactly do you mean? You mean that they should cease to exist to be considered as such? If that's the case then I would say it's an unrealistic expectation.

I would say that they've been largely contained. If I remember correctly, back in the '50s almost half of the American population used to smoke. The percentage of people smoking has been consistently decreasing over the years thanks to regulation and increased taxation. Tobacco companies are definetly not as influential as they once were.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How many vape, which is more harmful, more addictive?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

You made me notice that a lot of companies learned from tobacco companies not just those XD

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

it's an analogy; the author is drawing parallels between them. Obviously Tobacco companies were not "defeated" but they were regulated to hell, and I'm sure the author would say that's what we need to do with social media too.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They won't stop mega corping like they used to, they got supplemented by cars then oil then banks and now tech/pharma

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

No company will stop attempting to achieve mega corp status in a capitalist environment. Gotta make that line go up and to the right!

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