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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Good luck, independent car manufacturers usually get bankrupted out of business directly or indirectly by a market dominated by traditional car manufacturing lobbies designed to be replete with minefields that usually go up in difficulty just before it's supposed to reach mass production. There have been plenty of innovative EV designs that have died off because of this, and it's telling how much power those lobbies have when its the one thing countries will unite against to keep Chinese competition off of their borders.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Crazy how so many people have been begging for bare ones, affordable electric vehicles.

Then when one comes on the scene they do nothing but complain. Can't please anybody these days it seems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They claim 20k, which is nice, but noone will believe it will stay that way. Given the [gestures broadly to everything] they likely will need to find an non-lithium based alternative battery before the reserves run dry, the price sky-rockets and then would-be buyers deal with scalper prices (not like thats much different than going to a dealership anyway).

This would have been a smash hit in 2022, but now its too little, too late.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

20k after 7500 tax incentive. So 27,500 approximately. Cheapest EVs are I think 29k right now. So this is well within the realm of possibility imo. It will probably go up a bit by the time it makes it out the door. And probably no one will get the barebones model and spend 2-3k at least on accessories.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The 20k is after government incentives, definitely not permanent pricing. Lithium isn't scarce in the US, at least. The McDermitt Caldera reserves are quite substantial. More than half of the world's total supply.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Its range is also only 180 miles. The smaller battery definitely helps keep the cost down.

This car might not be for me but I definitely see its value and hope they're successful.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Is it a networked surveillance nightmare?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

It doesn't seem to come with any gadgets. No touch screen, not even a radio. It's possible that it still broadcasts location data and it's possible they could hide a mic to record audio as well. But it isn't connecting to your phone with Bluetooth, it can't exploit the Bluetooth connection to scrub your messages and socials. So it's a LOT better than most new cars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Less reason to believe that it is than most cars that literally market themselves as connected

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

Lost me at “American”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

This is like the electric version of the bare-bones Toyota ICE pickup

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It’s backed by Bezos. Wouldn’t even consider it for that reason alone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What else are you going to do? I hate Bezoz as much as anybody, but if I could actually get one of these for 25k? I'd buy three of them just to keep around for emergencies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Just not buy one?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

I'm sure, somehow, mostly everything is at least slightly backed by bezos

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