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Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

At least in the U.S. and Canada, that is.

This was brought to my attention thanks to a Reddit post where a user (presumably a resident of Canada), had posted how Lenovo was shipping laptops with Fedora and Ubuntu at a cheaper price compared to their Windows-equipped counterparts.

Others then chimed in, saying that Lenovo has been doing this since at least 2020 and that the big price difference shows how ridiculous Windows' pricing is.

Cutting the Windows Tax

When I dug in further, I found out that the US and Canadian websites for Lenovo offered U.S. $140 and CAD $211 off on the same ThinkPad X1 Carbon model when choosing any one of the Linux-based alternatives.

Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installedLenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

US pricing on left, Canadian pricing on right.

Interestingly, while the difference in pricing is noticeable, your mileage may vary if you are looking for such laptops on the official website. Not all models from their laptop lineup, like ThinkPad, Yoga, Legion, LOQ, etc., feature an option to get Linux pre-installed during the checkout process.

Luckily, there is an easy way to filter through the numerous laptops. Just go to the laptops section (U.S.) on the Lenovo website and turn on the "Operating System" filter under the Filter by specs sidebar menu.

Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

Yes, it's as simple as that. You can do the same for the various official online regional storefronts that Lenovo runs to see whether Linux-based operating systems are being offered on their laptops in your country.

Closing Thoughts

It is good to see that Lenovo is offering Linux in its laptops. In fact, there is another big-name laptop manufacturer, Dell, who also does something similar with its Ubuntu-certified laptops, but both have the same constraint of having limited options for buyers.

Also, as far as I know, Dell doesn't reduce the pricing if you choose Linux instead of Windows. Correct me if I am wrong in the comments.

Nonetheless, I think these manufacturers could do a better job in marketing these Linux-based alternative operating systems to general consumers, showing them how they can save big when opting for these instead of the pricey and bloated Windows.

Otherwise, we might have to start observing Windows Refund Day again.

πŸ’¬ Your take on this? Would mainstream users benefit from having Linux pre-installed on their laptops?


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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Installing my own OS is half the fun of getting a new computer. Why would I want the manufacturer to install an OS?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

a nice 140 usd discount sounds like a decent incentive

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Least of all, Windows, the telemetry software that lets you play games and sometimes be productive. Terms and conditions may apply!!1

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Idk maybe so you can start using it?

Nothing is stopping you from throwing out the OEM install.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That's great! - But. But, I hope some people check it out carefully. Some years ago, Lenovo middle-man'd the SSL root certificate on laptops so they could inject ads into Https web pages. (And spy on users? Steal passwords? Manipulate bank accounts? I hope not...)

I wonder what they could hide in an own Linux install?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Do you have any reputable articles of this? I’m interested cheers

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I quite like their laptops but they put the most horrible keyboards I've ever used. I've had chronic rsi and my fingers physically hurt less than 8h of use.

Do they have high end laptops (32g RAM, top i7 or similar, for Android development) at reasonable prices with good keyboards? I've been on Xps for a while.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You....don't like Thinkpad keyboards? You may be alone in this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

my shop uses HP Elitebooks and Lenovo ThinkPads and users typically prefer the Elitebook keyboard but this is a comparison of only 2 midrange models with a sample size of a few hundred so your milage may vary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I have an elitebook g450 and a yogo 380L. They're both nice in their own ways but the g450 has a better short travel.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm in the UK, and last year got a Lenovo ThinkPad laptop with Linux pre-installed that was cheaper than the Windows equivalent. I had a choice of RAM, SSD, display and OS. Ubuntu was the only choice of Linux, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How much does an OEM windows cost these days?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

2 pints if you're Peter Thiel's blood type.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Can't exactly remember, but I think it was about Β£50 cheaper not to have Windows (Home Edition) installed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Next headline: β€œLenovo discontinues offering Linux laptops due to minuscule sales and almost as many returns”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're really underestimating how similar windows 11 and Ubuntu are for average end users

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My parents never noticed. It's only younger generations who are heavily invested in the branding.

Actual usage is much the same.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Not really. Most people under 25 grew up on Chromebooks, not windows. Most people over 25 that aren't tech savvy have been systematically moved to exclusively use web apps for whatever thing they're doing. And based on browser numbers they can recognize a chrome logo to click on.

Anyone even slightly tech savvy, and I'm including people that use a computer for anything other than web based apps as tech savvy, has heard of Linux and can figure out what pretty icon to click on.

This isn't 1994, Ubuntu was made for the iPhone generation, windows 11 was made for the iPhone generation. They're both babby mode oses for people that think google is a program.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Computer companies tried that for a while like 15 years ago, too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Except now you don't need to run proprietary software. Everything is online. If Chromebooks work for 90% of users, Linux will work for even more.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The timing here with compatability getting better could be a huge difference maker.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Absolutely. I'm just saying its not a novel idea.

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