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[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Some of these products would not exist without their American counterpart, which directly fuel their existance.

Librewolf is just a hardened version of Firefox. It would not exist without the Firefox team continuing to develop Firefox and to fix its security issues.

Ecosia primarely uses Bing and Startpage uses Google for search results. Both would not exist without the search engines backing them.

I'm not saying these are bad products and I don't mean to criticiseze. I'm actually a librewolf user myself. I just think it is important to point out that the European label might be deceiving in this instance and might mislead people into thinking they are using something different than they actually are.

It might also not be so important. Perhaps focusing our energy on good open source projects and NGO-backed initiatives is desirable regardless of their origin?

idk food for thought

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

American telegram? ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

i know its soviet technology๐Ÿ˜”

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[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

EDIT I misunderstood the post, this is what you're using, not what you're recommending, sorry about that!
I will still include my original comment below.

Still, I use and can recommend XMPP and the provider magicbroccoli.de! Arne the admin is also a swell guy!


Bold move recommending US Signal over European Telegram!

I'd personally trust neither very much; one's US funded and the other clearly not as secure outside โ€œsecret chatsโ€.

But what about Threema? Or a European XMPP provider like the excellent magicbroccoli.de?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

magicbroccoli.de

Tell me you're for weed dealers without telling me you're for weed dealers xD

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

any reason for XMPP over Matrix?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I can highly recommend https://mapy.com/

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Decent list, but I'd recommend Threema instead of Signal

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Any good guide on RVX? I see plenty of websites of I search for revanced but I don't know which one is the official app

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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

very nice, thanks for sharing

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I haven't kept up with all the changes in core developers the last few years, but isn't Arch mostly American?

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Arch isn't european though, it's canadian.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

The Canadian who started it has long since retired from the project. A lot of the current developers live in Germany.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Signal was made in the US and paid for with US funding though?

[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Signal is based in California, but they're a nonprofit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought it was odd to see it in an European alternative list.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't personally have issues with nonprofits or FOSS as exceptions to my own personal boycott of US companies, but if anyone is looking for an alternative to Signal, SimpleX is probably the closest analog.

It's decentralized and funded globally. It's based in the UK.

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[โ€“] [email protected] -5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How can you tell someone is a Linux user? They will tell you, vocally, unprompted, and often with an infographic.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm dissapointed.......No snappy remark on our command line usage /s

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that how you communicate with us humans?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is: command not found

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Would you rather them put reactos in the alternatives?

Macos is American. Haiku, FreeBSD, and redox orgs are based in America. OpenBSD and GhostBSD are based in Canada

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

i use arch btw๐Ÿซฃ๐Ÿซฃ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿคฏ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž

[โ€“] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure it's a good idea to recommend Arch Linux to newbies migrating from Windows; maybe prioritize Mint or similar?

[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

this is not a recommendation post. this is what i personally use as i said in the title. i would always recommend Mint to a Linux beginner

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[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Awesome stuff. Also don't forget European DNS companies like Quad9.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

You can also easily host your own DNS with Unbound

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, you have to pay to add a domain to the servers. They also probably use the requests data commercially.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

And Mullvad

[โ€“] [email protected] 104 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would rather see people use Firefox than Vivaldi. We need a more diverse browser engine market to keep the web open. More here: https://better-tech.eu/web/article/switch-browsers/

[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We need a more diverse browser engine market to keep the web open.

We definitely do, but it's a tall order considering making a fully functional and daily usable browser engine is one of the most difficult programming projects to under take

At least we got Ladybird with its brand new from scratch engine coming up though! (In 2028....)

[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I can't get behind a browser built from scratch with C, not Rust, considering how integral browsers are to security these days. Plus there's the whole controversy around their pronouns and politics in coding stances.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's absolutely not a simple thing, but if we let the web turn into Chrome-only then Ladybird doesn't stand a chance. For now, more market share for Firefox and Firefox-based browsers is the only argument against making websites only work in Chrome.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Especially if Chrome is bought by OpenAI or some of the other players who want to enshittify it even faster and have shown interest.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i use librewolf on PC (which is a firefox fork) and vivaldi on phone :3

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fennec or Vanadium are good alt phone browsers, too. I do my best not to use chromium stuff at all, but keep the latter around on the work profile of my phone.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Waterfox too!

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