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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He does the Nazi salute on the big stage and it shocked when he gets a collective middle finger salute back.

On the other hand, he went with Trump. Everybody going that way gets burned, used up, and thrown away. That things wouldn't work out was expected. It's also suspected that Musk would be used as the wrecking ball to crush institutions and when the inevitable problems arise, Musk would be blamed and tossed aside to keep the rest of the regime in the clear.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Elon did to Tesla what Hitler did to svastika.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago

So follow your nazi-rolemodel's example and self-administer some antidepressants.

Piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

And this is only the first quarter, when all the DOGE bullshit was still new. I can't wait to see what Q2 is going to bring, sales drop wise. :-) This mofo deserves all the bad news that's coming to him, I truly hope the bottom falls out of his debt ridden house of cards.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't see anything in the news about Epstein being depressed. Maybe Elon should try the Epstein trick.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I drove past a dealership today and they had soooo many cybertrucks lol

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Oh no! Anyway...

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

“The Teslas that will be fully autonomous in June in Austin will be Model Ys, so that is currently on track to be able to do paid rides, fully autonomously in June, and then to be in many other cities in the U.S. by the end of this year,” Musk said on the call.

Okay, so there is zero chance that there will be fully autonomous model Ys doing paid rides anywhere for the next 5-10 years (at least).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

You think it's going to be hard for Tesla to convince a city in Texas to let them do autonomous rides?

Texas.

I'm not suggesting they'll do a lot of rides, but there will be at least a handful until something goes wrong sooner than it should and they force a pause.

Edit: and to be clear, something very wrong. Waymo does wrong things all the time and it's allowed. It's going to have to do enough wrong things in a short time or a very very bad thing sooner than it should. But they'll do rides until that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They will be doing autonomous rides off of bridges.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Hey now! They could catch fire before the make it to a bridge.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is zero fucking chance I will be getting into one of these death traps.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's seal the coffin for Tesla. If it is profitable again, it will fuel fascism again. This brand need to go bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

With the one possible exception that Musk sells a large enough portion of his shares that not only does he not guide it, but no longer gains significant percentage of it's profits.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

71% is just the start.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I'm sure a little special K can fix this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

He should make a submarine and visit the Titanic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Oh no!

Oh well, anyway, you guys got any cool plans fro this weekend?

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure Peter Theil fucked him over AGAIN. Thiel himself has been successfully lurking in the shadows to do evil shit and get what he wants, while Musk (although certainly far from innocent) has become the perfect scapegoat.

For months Musk was this untouchable god that couldn't be removed from Trump's office. They got Elon to handle all the dirty work, attach his face and name to some truly despicable shit, made him the most hated man in the country, then gradually made him look like an annoying nuisance who was disrespected by all the "adults in the white house," and got everyone to start questioning if his mental health was spiraling, and now that Theil's protege is handling technology and AI policy they no longer need Elon to ~~leave his fingerprints on everything~~ do anything.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm sure that there was maneuvering for influence, but he's a grown, competent adult. Most of his wealth is associated with a company that has made its products an identity symbol for progressives. It should not be that hard to see that becoming a colossally-important financial supporter of, very-visibly palling around with, and performing some of the more-unpopular actions for the extraordinarily-unpopular-with-progressives Trump was going to piss people off. Having Trump do a sales pitch for said products on the White House lawn is just icing on the cake.

He was not trapped in that situation. Hell, even if he wanted to make huge donations, lots of wealthy people donate money to presidential campaigns


albeit not normally at the level that Musk did


and they don't normally engage in the kind of incredibly-visible association that Musk did. He could have walked away. He could have even just asked Trump to appoint someone who he agreed with in the role, rather than taking it himself.

And this isn't Musk's first high-profile brand management screw-up. With Twitter, he was roundly criticized for the rebrand to X, given that Twitter had a very-well-established, valuable brand. Like, after the first time around, you'd think that he could reasonably have someone sanity-checking some of this for impact on brand.

I don't expect Musk to be mistake-free, but I really think that if you placed most business leaders in his shoes, they'd have had an inkling that this was quite likely to be trouble.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am not trying to defend Musk, just pointing out that even if he steps back from the White House it definitely doesn't mean we've seen the exit of the final boss.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah “blood boy” Thiel and Palantir and the like are the “deep state” the right witch hunted for so long. Pretty sure https://westworld.fandom.com/wiki/Engerraund_Serac is partially based on him with the “I’ll control the future of the human race and swim through the blood to get to the ending I think is best because I’m rich”

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I try to not be happy when people suffer, because I believe we should all be working to reduce suffering for everyone and not increase it for others (even if they are "those people"), but sometimes it's really hard...

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

elon causes mass global suffering

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

The rich and powerful suffering in kind for all the suffering they've caused should be the norm. When it's the exception, not the rule, I savor every moment as it's much too fleeting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He absolutely did and does, no doubt about it. But it's him suffering going to fix any of that or improve the lives of people he and his goons destroyed? I don't know what to think about it, it's too philosophical for my small monkey brain...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

He is still causing suffering. The sooner he goes down and stops ruining lives, the better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Well if his self-inflicted suffering makes him stop an iota of what he's doing on Xitter or with DOGE, then yes, it will improve the lives of others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

his suffering is self inflicted. there is a way for his suffering to end and it's to learn hoarding all the wealth in the world and all the power has not and will not make him happy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I on the other hand wish to lash certain people to crosses, Musks suffering isn't nearly enough to sate mine hunger.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sure, but doesn't that make you (and me too, since I actually grinned and felt really good about this initially) very similar to him and US republicans in general? Celebrating the "right people" being hurt?

I don't have an answer, I find it super hard to not hate the other side, but I don't think it's healthy or productive, and it doesn't really help anyone... Having said that, it does feel like at least the beginning of just punishment, doesn't it? I just wish people stopped being total dicks to each other and we didn't have to punish anyone... :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Punching up vs punching down

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It doesn't make us particularly similar in my opinion, the reason is why we take satisfaction from his suffering. I don't know about you but to me it is due to righteous anger, he has hurt innumerable people both directly and indirectly that frankly speaking I don't think there is a way for him to pay. His suffering and hopefully his death won't be some grand recompense it'll be a chore like killing a weed.

As for the rank and file, I don't hate em. They are victims of pointless propaganda and bullshit and frankly deserve better than their given lot. That is what separates me from them, while I don't give a damn about collateral I also don't wish to create it unduly. I remember folks cheering as the cities were first hit by covid, I don't feel any satisfaction from folks getting fucked over like that.

As for Musk in particular I doubt if I got to lash him to a cross that I'd feel particularly good, frankly speaking id probably feel like shit. But well I'd be doing a chore one that I think needs doing, if Musk did the same to me it'd be a flash of pleasure for him before he moves into his next high.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why was the stock up today??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This announcement happened at the close of the markets. The price movement during active trading today cannot be in response to this announcement.

Watch the markets tomorrow, that is when you will see the effect of this news.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They released quarterly report and this was already priced in. When no new bombshells were dropped, people started buying.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago
  1. It’s down 9% since in revenue compared to this quarter last year. Not good but 71% loss on net income is slightly misleading
  2. Outlook is often more important than earnings. People are, supposedly, hype about the autonomous taxis. But those have been coming “next year” for a couple years now
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is just getting started. This company is going to Zero. Let this be a warning to all Nazi's in the future.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

You have to wait until Christmas to open it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

The word of the day is "schadenfreude"

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