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Bill Maher has come in for tons of criticism since he opted to have dinner with Donald Trump, but none of it was as biting as a recent takedown by "Seinfeld" creator Larry David.

In an essay for the New York Times called "My Dinner With Adolf," David took Maher to task for attempting to soften the image of a fascist strongman. While David never mentions the "Real Time" host by name, the timing of the piece and its main character's need to hear out all sides past the point of ludicrousness make the target clear.

David's fictional meeting with Adolf Hitler echoes many of the points that Maher has made in the days since he dined with Trump. Maher, a crochety liberal-leaning comic who has grown more crochety and less liberal as societal norms have passed him by, marvelled at the fact that he could make the commander-in-chief laugh.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

I want Bernie to read this all out loud on the Senate floor.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Larry David's humor is perfect for this. what a mensch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago

sort of über in mein opinion

[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Paywalled, but here is the piece:

Imagine my surprise when in the spring of 1939 a letter arrived at my house inviting me to dinner at the Old Chancellery with the world’s most reviled man, Adolf Hitler. I had been a vocal critic of his on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicting everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. “He’s Hitler. He’s a monster.” But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere. I knew I couldn’t change his views, but we need to talk to the other side — even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity.

Two weeks later, I found myself on the front steps of the Old Chancellery and was led into an opulent living room, where a few of the Führer’s most vocal supporters had gathered: Himmler, Göring, Leni Riefenstahl and the Duke of Windsor, formerly King Edward VIII. We talked about some of the beautiful art on the walls that had been taken from the homes of Jews. But our conversation ended abruptly when we heard loud footsteps coming down the hallway. Everyone stiffened as Hitler entered the room.

He was wearing a tan suit with a swastika armband and gave me an enthusiastic greeting that caught me off guard. Frankly, it was a warmer greeting than I normally get from my parents, and it was accompanied by a slap on my back. I found the whole thing quite disarming. I joked that I was surprised to see him in a tan suit because if he wore that out, it would be perceived as un-Führer-like. That amused him to no end, and I realized I’d never seen him laugh before. Suddenly he seemed so human. Here I was, prepared to meet Hitler, the one I’d seen and heard — the public Hitler. But this private Hitler was a completely different animal. And oddly enough, this one seemed more authentic, like this was the real Hitler. The whole thing had my head spinning.

He said he was starving and led us into the dining room, where he gestured for me to sit next to him. Göring immediately grabbed a slice of pumpernickel, whereupon Hitler turned to me, gave me an eye roll, then whispered, “Watch. He’ll be done with his entire meal before you’ve taken two bites.” That one really got me. Göring, with his mouth full, asked what was so funny, and Hitler said, “I was just telling him about the time my dog had diarrhea in the Reichstag.” Göring remembered. How could he forget? He loved that story, especially the part where Hitler shot the dog before it got back into the car. Then a beaming Hitler said, “Hey, if I can kill Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals, I can certainly kill a dog!” That perhaps got the biggest laugh of the night — and believe me, there were plenty.

But it wasn’t just a one-way street, with the Führer dominating the conversation. He was quite inquisitive and asked me a lot of questions about myself. I told him I had just gone through a brutal breakup with my girlfriend because every time I went someplace without her, she was always insistent that I tell her everything I talked about. I can’t stand having to remember every detail of every conversation. Hitler said he could relate — he hated that, too. “What am I, a secretary?” He advised me it was best not to have any more contact with her or else I’d be right back where I started and eventually I’d have to go through the whole thing all over again. I said it must be easy for a dictator to go through a breakup. He said, “You’d be surprised. There are still feelings.” Hmm … there are still feelings. That really resonated with me. We’re not that different, after all. I thought that if only the world could see this side of him, people might have a completely different opinion.

Two hours later, the dinner was over, and the Führer escorted me to the door. “I am so glad to have met you. I hope I’m no longer the monster you thought I was.” “I must say, mein Führer, I’m so thankful I came. Although we disagree on many issues, it doesn’t mean that we have to hate each other.” And with that, I gave him a Nazi salute and walked out into the night.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago

Ugh, my mom was telling me how great it was for Bill Maher to meet with Trump. I told her humanizing Trump wasn't gonna help anyone, but she insisted it was great.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

i watch Real Time with Bill Maher regularly and watched his monologue about his meeting with Trump (it disgusted me). this essay is beautiful because it hits many of the same points Maher made and i just know that Bill must be embarrassed and livid.

Bill Maher owes us all (his viewers) an apology. but of course we will never get it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I stopped watching Maher when I realized all the anti-religous humor was soley directed at Catholics and Jews and he reserved actual vitriol for Muslims. Then the mean spirited dismissive language about women and just constantly talking over them. And then he got twitter...

https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/07/bill-maher-s-sexist-tweet-the-so-called-progressive-makes-light-of-domestic-violence.html

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago

Awe thank you for this!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a work of art, genius level.

And will go completely over the head of almost every average American.

"Wait, I don't get it..." They will say as they read the ChatGTP summary, which will be shorter and easier to read. "Is Hitler still alive then? Why did this guy have dinner with him? What does this mean? So like, Hitler ain't so bad?"

They will try to ask these questions on Reddit or Facebook but the question will get shadowbanned because the topic is too controversial for advertisers. Or the only ones who answer will be bots programmed to deliver specific replies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Doesn't seem like the popular the American writter's piece, written sarcastically in their familiar voice, published in the popular American newspaper is going to go completely over everyones head.

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