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The teens claimed CBP targeted them because they hadn’t booked hotels for their entire stay in Hawaii.

“They found it suspicious that we hadn’t fully booked our accommodations for the entire five weeks in Hawaii,” Pohl said. “We wanted to travel spontaneously. Just like we had done in Thailand and New Zealand.”

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"We wanted to travel spontaneously."

This is how my sister and I do our road trips. We get in the car and drive until we are tired then search for a hotel. If we find a town we like we might stop there even if the day is young.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I've always travelled like this. You just get a ho(s)tel for the first few nights, and then you just stay longer if you like where you are or you move on to the next place based on what locals/other travellers recommend.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Having not fully booked your accommodation for the entire trip could get you denied entry to the US before Trump. Just saying. Especially if you aren’t white. Same with not having an outbound ticket.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I met a good chunk of Europeans and Aussies while thru hiking on the AT a few years ago.

All of those folks did not have full accommodations booked in advance, that would have been impossible. They seemed to find that pretty normal and were not turned away.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This. It also gets you denied in Australia and other countries. This is non-news.

Source: Previously my guilty pleasure was watching Border Security Australia Not so much anymore.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Is it that common? How do they handle backpackers?

I've literally never gone on a single multi-week vacation in my entire life with fully booked accommodation for the whole thing. I book the majority of the first week and I know when I'm flying back, but in between I'm mostly guided by the wind.

I can't book hotels in places I don't know I'll be going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I doubt it's common. I've traveled to Australia and the US (and a bunch of other places) with just a few nights in a hostel booked, sometimes even without a return flight. Might be different if you've got a middle eastern name or something like that, but pretty much every backpacker travels this way.

Imagine booking 2 years ahead when you're on a writing holiday visa, that's just nuts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

How do people get multi week vacations?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

A few years back my 19 yo American son had a great experience working the summer as a camp counselor here in the states. It is a religious camp (not that my son is that religion) that draws in campers from the states and Europe. Many of those campers as they get older come back as counselors. They get the appropriate visas, make money working the camp for 8 weeks, then take the few weeks after camp before they have to leave and blow that money on traveling the States and their trip home. It was an incredible experience and inspired my son to bust his ass, save money, and a few years later took a self funded trip to Europe where he couch surfed these homes of the friends he made.

I think about those kids this year. There's no way I'd risk traveling back to this shit hole country if I were them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Just book some of your +5 weeks per year together. What, are you American or something?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Double income, single household, no kids. (and even then just barely, i will add)

Or, if you're talking time wise, live in a country that isn't run by and for corporations and you can still enjoy some paid time off.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sure it happens occasionally but I've never actually heard of CPB asking for hotel bookings, just outbound flight number. This is stuff you'd submit on a visa application. If the US wants to make Europeans get visa to travel then they should just do that.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, it is not newsworthy when CBP does their normal, admittedly rather annoying job

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I completely believe these women, and I am sure Border Patrol invented sentences and put them in the transcript, altering what the women said in some parts and outright making stuff up in others. People assume transcripts are correct, but any corrupt authority can alter them or attribute anything to anyone. I called the Border Patrol to find out more and they surprisingly admittted to this corruption, saying "Yep, we alter transcripts all the time in between felching each other and praising Moloch."

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Don't go in USA. There are planty other places in the world.

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