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[–] [email protected] 125 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's a true shame. Francis was the most "eco-socialist" pope we are going to get. Managing to offend entrenched conservatives deserves respect.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Should've worn a suite to that JD Vance meeting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Obviously, he should have been nicer to JD Vance. God punished him for his rudeness.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You joke, but I'm sure that someone somewhere is saying it seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He didn‘t die. He became more powerful than you could ever imagine.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (4 children)

My guess is that they will elect a conservative pope to replace Francis. It is no secret that there are court intrigues and in-fighting in the Vatican between progressive and conservative clergies. Pope Francis openly went toe to toe with many ultraconservative, MAGA clergies in America, de-frocking one of the priests.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Now I'm not saying Vance murdered the pope but I'm not not saying it either...

[–] [email protected] 412 points 4 days ago (36 children)

I am surpringly annoyed about Americans somehow finding a way to make this about themselves.

In reality I'm much more worried about the likely counterreformist pushback that is likely about to happen. We're about to find out if a remarkably powerful organization's leader was able to seed enough support to secure a politically aligned successor, and if the answer is "no" a bunch of organizations are about to get even more ruthlessly conservative at a time when a new strain of fascism is seeking moral support. The Catholic Church has been here before. It didn't go well.

[–] [email protected] 231 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

"Francis appointed nearly 80% of the cardinal electors who will choose the next pope, increasing the possibility that his successor will continue his progressive policies, despite the strong pushback from traditionalists."

https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-francis-has-died-vatican-says-video-statement-2025-04-21/

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago (16 children)

It sure feels like the tides are turning conservative everywhere, but apparently a Filipino progressive is a favorite to be next

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

We'll see where it goes. They aren't exactly transparent about these things, and they've been arguing among themselves for a while. We'll know with the white smoke, I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, “guess I’ll die” is a normal reaction to meeting JD.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago

On Easter. The thumpers are going to love this

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 4 days ago (1 children)

JD Vance visits the Vatican, the pope literally dies

I guess he didn't say "thank you"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

“I know you have not been feeling great but it’s good to see you in better health,” Mr. Vance told the pope, according to video footage of the visit

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/20/us/politics/pope-francis-meets-with-jd-vance.html

[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 days ago (7 children)

He was an alright Pope in the end. Not a soulless bastard like Benedict.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, now it's time to swing to an even Nazier Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You joke but there is a genuine possibility that the Vatican might elect someone who is more conservative, if not very so. The Vatican under Francis had been the most progressive it had been in decades. And it ruffled the feathers of many conservative clergies.

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[–] [email protected] 267 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, meeting JD Vance can be too much for anyone.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, it's not even hat far fetched. He probably denied visits because he was in bad health, yet Americans probably pushed to meet anyway

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We should spread the news that Vance killed him!

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 days ago

vance liz truss'd the pope

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago

May he rest in peace.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 days ago (3 children)

let's wait a couple days and see if he comes back

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wonder if he really made it through the Easter or whether they kept it covered so that it looked like so

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Did they do an Easter at Bernies?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (2 children)

He made an appearance at Easter mass yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

Mustered up that last goodbye to the people

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Hologram technology really has come a long way

[–] [email protected] 113 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is huge, pinning it for now.

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