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I find it interesting, and concerning, that in more MAGA-friendly corners of the internet it seems pretty common to see Canadians who are convinced the polls are all fake and manipulated and that Poilievre is headed for a sure majority, just based off of rally attendance and anecdotal observations of lawn signs.
It's a completely different reality from anyone who's not in that bubble of conservative social media.
This one has been so weird it feels like it's my first one (and it's really not). All the dynamics and big swings happened before the campaign period, and it's just been weirdly, ominously still the whole time during.
Poilievre knows people don’t want him. The only group that wants him are young MAGA types.
How do I know that he knows that? Because he has Harper out there campaigning for him to older conservative voters. He knows those folks would rather vote for Carney than him. That’s why he’s trying to trick them into thinking that he’s Harper’s buddy. It’s not gonna work.
The Conservatives are trying to pull together an impossible coalition of older centre-right Canadians and younger post-truth populists. I’m extremely doubtful that they’ll succeed. But they don’t have any other choice.
Nobody wanted Trudeau, that much is true, but I think Poilievre mistook that to mean that people wanted him, that is not as true.
I didn’t want JT the last time I voted for him either but I would have voted again to prevent PP from being elected. I can’t think of any other conservative or any politician I’ve disliked as much, i like him less than Harper.
When asked by volunteers why I won’t vote conservative i said I won’t vote for a party and candidate that uses trump style nicknames like “carbon tax carney”
Nobody wanted Trudeau
Meh. I thought Justin's team did really well in blunting the economic tsunami that came with covid. I think he took a lot of reasonable steps in the right order, or his team did. He stood up for the cameras and said the words he needed, and there was a feeling of communication and openness that wasn't unilaterally consistent but seemed consistent around covid.
I think he made some errors - to get a list, just see whatever the cons hyper-focused on in an attempt to find some outrage somewhere - but on balance he did well. His last act, resigning at the right time to give Mr Carney a chance to get in and lay down a personality for the cameras, was also I think well done. And if Justin's last effort was to show us a decent alternative to Milhouse, then I'll give him credit for that too.
I'm sorry to hear people abjectly hating on Trudeau, but honestly my biggest beef with him is the lack of voting reform as planned; but given the pandemic, I'll take a Status Quo on that then like I will now given the trade war overshadowing it in importance.
This sums my view up. I would have voted for Pierre, if it was him vs Trudeau. But....Carney came along and seems logical and competent. Plus I can't read or watch anything about the conservatives without them applying some grade-school level bullying tactic. Libs got my vote this time.
I would have voted for Pierre, if it was him vs Trudeau
I despise the Conservative 'platform' (finger-pointing and trickle-down) so much, I think I'd vote for a box of dead skunks over Milhouse or elTool or whoever is running their show this week.
I have a preferred party, and it's not hard to see which that is. But, if it comes to it, I'm ABC.
I'd have agreed, until it became obvious what a Trump-fellator Polievre had become. I think if Harris had won down south, even Carney couldn't have saved the Liberals. Charlie Angus was not wrong, the Liberals have Trump to thank if they win.
You were perfectly ready to cut off your nose to spite your face and that is the big problem with Canadian politics that will never be solved with electoral reform alone.
wait until you learn about the other parties
He is STILL invoking the ghost of Trudeau nearly every time he takes a question.
Pierre Poilievre, is the ghost of Justin Trudeau in the room with us?
You are right. I also feel like Carney is now the adult in the room. With the economic and other threats from USA he seems the strongest one to counter and that’s what we need. At least I hope he is the force he seems to be.
Carney is now the adult in the room
Justin was the baby-sitter, but Dad's home now?
Watching the debates proved without a doubt that Carney is the only adult in the room. He was playing moderator during the debate consistently telling the other leaders to be quiet while the others were speaking and didn't interrupt others when they were speaking.
I find it telling that he doesn't seem to be able to understand that. It doesn't say much for his ability to negotiate or switch gears on the fly when needed.
If nothing else I think Trump, in his selfish way, helped us dodge a .50 cal bullet.
But he has a new slogan! Axe the inflation tax! It’s genius! It’s so good that this slogan will get people to vote for him, I know it
I never understood the excitement behind scrapping the carbon tax. Especially since it would mean that we'd just get hit with CBAM taxes when dealing with exports to the EU, and even less money coming back into our pockets. But hell yeah, industry gets to save billions while making our air more toxic! Woo!
I never understood the excitement behind scrapping the carbon tax.
Conservatives only know one thing: reduces taxes on the rich and drop services for the poor. Trickle-down is their entire schtick, with a bunch of masks.
Feel that c$0.00026 savings on a loaf of bread, and 4c/litre gas price reduction before the stations pick up the slack. I can feel myself getting richer on this buck-a-bud-beer promise by that guy who was threatening america on camera.
They score REALLY WELL with people who can't play checkers and see one move ahead, and it's a consistent pattern.
... Well, actually didn't they/PP rail against the GST holiday back last December... so, they only like it when THEY do it apparently...
I actually love how Carney did it to be honest. He got rid of the consumer tax which took the wind out of PP’s sails while keeping the tax on producers so I don’t think we’ll get hit with CBAM (not an expert though)
Charlie Angus the other day: “Donald Trump, I’m going to say this once—and I might never say it again—I want to thank you. I want to thank you for bringing Canada together.”
“It took a malignant narcissistic slug like you to make us put aside all our differences—all our regional fights, all our concerns with one another—and realize we actually had to stand up for something better: standing up for the rule of law, for democracy, for decency.”
Angus went on to hit out at Trump and his “incel gang” who are terrified of diversity, equity and inclusion, adding, “Your DEI nightmare? Well, we are your DEI nightmare, Donald. Canada will always be a country of diversity. We will always be a country of equity. We will always be a country of inclusion. And we will defend the rule of law.”
Edit: Source
I wish this was true. I still see too much conservative support to believe it. Almost half of this country is clearly still a threat to our sovereignty and identity.
For many years places like the Fraser Insistute would point to the USA larger economy and more competitive salaries as why Canada should be copying their policies.
As usual the progressive arguments needed context like higher proverty rates or underlying social issues which to people that can barely make it past a article title is a largely lost cause. But in 2025 we can pretty just point to the flaming turd that is America and unless people are a special flavor of nuts they just kinda nod.
How weird is that, given that just a few months ago the Conservatives enjoyed a 25-point lead over the hapless Liberals? If the latest Nanos numbers hold up, that would represent a 31-point collapse in support for the Conservative Party of Canada over a very short period of time.
When the post-mortem of Election 2025 is done, Trump, Trudeau’s resignation and the end of the carbon tax will all be important considerations. So too will Carney’s ascension to the leadership.
the end of the carbon tax will all be
... pennies on the grocery bill and the best way to fund post-oil energy programmes. Stop listening to no-tax no-facts Conservatives, man!
I bristled when I read that too. I like to think the writer is calling out how we are making a decision contradictory to our survival on this planet to avoid a PP government, which would cause even greater suffering. I have so much frustration with our species on our inability to address the climate crisis