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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

    What do you mean you don't like reading documentation to use the basic functions of my OS?

    Why would anyone ever want to use a UI or a mouse?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

    Lol, what? This is suggesting window is simple?

    Linux is so much better in this regard.

    People don't see it because they have habits, but once you support both OS's, windows is full of bizarre quirks and nonsense.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    The problem is that the road between creating a piece of software that does something well, and then creating simplification layers on top of it is typically much longer than just "edit a config file" and "here's a readme".

    You need extra documentation, config gating and workflow, warnings, UI/UX work etc.

    I know there are Linux elitists but kind of expecting that much extra work for what is still at it's core mostly volunteer software seems like it's own form of elitism.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

    Arch wiki btw

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    My only beef with this lately has been valutwarden.

    like look, I get it, http is shit, but I'm on a local network and it isn't shared or even published to the greater internet in any way... can't I NO, YOU WILL USE DNS CERTS PER ARTICLE 1.2 OF THE INSTALLATION GUIDE AND YOU WILL SET UP A REVERSE PROXY WITH CLOUDFLARE...

    ughhhh

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

    This meme just needs a few arrows and ten more text labels and then it'll really get its point across.

    [–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    No, seriously.

    This mindset of, “If you don’t like to read pages of documentation to figure out how to do the thing you’re wanting to do, then maybe Linux isn’t for you?” Or the “god. How dare you ask such a STUPID question. You’re using Linux wrong and it probably isn’t for you. Go back to baby’s first OS!” Is the biggest gripe I have about using Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

    So you ever tried support with windows? Go to some crappy community site with people who barely know what they are talking about and try some powershell and regedit crap.

    Or go read conflicting Microsoft documentation that always seems to make man files look easy.

    Its computers. You read stuff to deal with stuff, the OS is irrelevant.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

    Especially since the manpages are not written to always be comprehensible for end-users, but for developers and professionals. Some tools like tldr can help, however they rarely come preinstalled and aren't getting the attention they deserve.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I’ve seen the exact same assholes in this community. They’ll argue on one hand that it’s not too complicated, then openly push back against any UI improvement because they don’t want more people moving into their niche. Gatekeeping turds.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

    Example? Why are there always people who can find these unicorns and I never seem to run into them.

    Or are you being extreme in calling gatekeeping because they feel they don't need the GUI, because it just works? Someone argued with me about how a GUI is necessary for everything and frankly it is the slowest way to convey information and the least accurate.

    But if YOU want a GUI, welcome to open source, and feel free to implement it.

    Point is, I don't think people are trying to gatekeep, or hold onto their niche, it just doesn't make sense or scratch their own itch.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Linux is so complicated!

    Translation:

    Linux actually isn't Windows.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Fuck right off with that, whoever actually made this image. I am fed up with "simplification", which is actually making everything as dumb and as closed as possible

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    Lol. I am writing this from a phone where I can't even see entire file system. Fuck those who made this, fuck those who think it is a good thing

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (9 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I've been hearing about Linux elitists for the last 20 years, and I have yet to meet one. But what I do see is an endless wave of trolling and bad faith arguments about the supposed complexity of Linux.

    They treat a wide array of developers, maintainers and enthusiasts as employees of Linux inc, and now they're grumpy because their imaginary ticket submitted to a nonexisting helpdesk is not being processed.

    I have recieved much more help and support from the Linux community than from any other proprietary software helpdesk.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    I've been hearing about Linux elitists for the last 20 years, and I have yet to meet one.

    Post/browse a help forum, it doesn't take long to find them

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    I too have never seen this. I see a lot of people claiming they are there but don't seen to find them. Been doing this a long time.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

    YOU SHALL USE tty ON A 4K HDR SCREEN

    I use Arch BTW!

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