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With surveys reporting that an increasing number of young men are subscribing to these beliefs, the number of women finding that their partners share the misogynistic views espoused by the likes of Andrew Tate is also on the rise. Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

“Numbers are growing, with wives worried about their husbands and partners becoming radicalised,” says Nigel Bromage, a reformed neo-Nazi who is now the director of Exit Hate Trust, a charity that helps people who want to leave the far right.

“Wives or partners become really worried about the impact on their family, especially those with young children, as they fear they will be influenced by extremism and racism.”

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

When I date people, I don't allow myself to go forward without completing a mutual background check. I ask questions and talk about politics, tell about situations I've encountered and listen attentively.

I want to know about the other person's world views, decision-making and problem-solving methods - and to inform them about my own. I want to know how they tell apart truth from a lie, what they think about state and centralization, wealth and poverty, science and religion, civil rights and minorities - and to inform them about what I think, so they could make informed decisions.

Ironically, I don't wish to know what party they vote for - because the selection is shitty and I laugh about my own past choices. :)

Recalling situations where world views mismatched - I've had to part ways with one person because she was too spiritual. Two people subscribed to odd conspiracy theories. One person's goals in life warned me about excessive self-interest and lack of care about others.

P.S.

Trying to switch perspective and step into the shoes of a woman, I think it can be a warning sign if the other person gives excessive gifts or feels "obligated to take care" - one should inquire about the reason. I would also be wary of people who eagerly accept me as the new centerpoint of their life - it might indicate an obsessive tendency and severe symptoms if the relation should break. If the other person exhibited jealousy about friends or controlling behaviour, that would be a definite warning sign to me.

P.P.S.

As for social media, yes, it can corrupt people's perception of reality. How to pull them out of the bog, no idea. As for how to avoid them getting there: no algorithmically steered social media.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 36 points 1 month ago

You leave them.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 100 points 1 month ago (35 children)

Occasionally my partner does or says some things that remind me of the “manosphere” aka 4chan neckbeards.

And when it happens, we talk about it. I don’t pretend or let it go as “he doesn’t mean it” or “he doesn’t know what he’s saying”. I don’t get mad and he doesn’t get mad. We have an adult discussion and I’m careful not to talk down to him.

A perfect example was that he sometimes says “females” when he means “women”. I explain that it’s not a swear word but it’s still derogatory. I explain why. Once I did, he understood and stopped doing it.

It doesn’t have to be a big deal! Communication is key!

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[–] Yermaw@lemm.ee 69 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's surprising to me that married people are falling for this shit. I thought it was just incels desperate for anything that might give them a chance or an excuse.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it isn't about being single, its about the modern hell world instilling extreme helplessness in vulnerable people, and they seek any answers whatsoever. the manosphere happily provides 'answers' in exchange for money

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It has also seeped into every aspect of male culture. You want to watch a YouTube show about cars? Sure. The first couple episodes are normal and then they start sliding in dumb shit.

You listen to a podcast about working out? Same thing goes. It’s little stuff here and there. Sometimes it starts as a reoccurring joke, but it keeps happening until they actually believe.

I also find there are a lot of young people who aren’t comfortable on computers and basically believe whatever they see on the internet, much like an older generation.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

There are people at my work place that I thought that I got along with and then all of a sudden they come out with the most bigoted things that I have ever heard. I straight up do not trust any man my age at this point there are just too many of them that are "hiding their powerlevel"

[–] mineralfellow@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I was enjoying some videos about dumb Steven Seagal movies, but then I realized that every single one would have jokes about women being bad drivers, being overly emotional, etc. At first I took it as a humorous way to look at Seagal's misogyny, but then it became apparent that it was being applied in other cases where it didn't make sense. It was subtle, in the context of the rest of the videos, but a definitely present part was the manosphere mentality.

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I literally just blocked an NSFW lemmit of misogynygonewild and it blew my mind it was even a thing. Fucking trash.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 1 month ago

Cesspits like that should be cleansed with fire

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 152 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

12% of young women support Tate? That's way higher than what I expected :( I can't understand why would any woman support someone who makes a fortune out of exploiting and abusing women openly

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Almost every survey will get 6-10% of people answering yes to the most extreme or batshit crazy option, no matter what.

Probably the main reason is that people are pissed off that they are being approached by survey takers and punish the survey for revenge.

And there are some batshit crazy people out there.

[–] KernelTale@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And then there are elections.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Same mindset.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 points 1 month ago

The Lizardman Constant.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 154 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Tradwife content is on the rise for women as well, more and more young people are buying into this mythical simpler past as the world gets more complex, alienating and difficult.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

mythical simple past but they wouldn't put down the fucking phone. anything but the phone!!

(regardless of gender)

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[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can understand that but how come being a webcam girl and endure physical and psychological abuse fit in the "tradwife" narrative? It's particularly support for Tate what I can't understand

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think this is ambigous. When people are asked "do you support the views of Andrew Tate?" How many actually know these in particular? What if individual views are asked and then if more than 50% are answered with "support" it is considered to support his views overall?

I've read enough news to know that Tate is a terrible person and probably a serious criminal. But i would not be able to describe his views, nor do i want to find out what his views are exactly.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I looked at the one for mysoginy

One in four of the young people who have heard of Tate have a favourable opinion of him, but there is a clear gender divide: only 12% of female respondents have a positive view, compared to 41% of young men.

We asked young people what they liked about Tate. The top three reasons overall are: “He’s not afraid to push back against ‘woke’ ideology” (24%), “He wants men to be real men” (22%) and “He tells it how it is” (20%). Although it is commonly thought that Tate’s opulent lifestyle, cars and fitness are an entrypoint through which young people become interested in his content, admiration for lifestyle (14%) and humour (11%) do not rank as highly. This suggests that the main pull of Andrew Tate for young people is his hateful activism.

That said, younger Tate supporters aged 16-17 and female respondents are more likely to admire his lifestyle, at 20% and 18% respectively. Putting Tate’s motivational and fitness content within a wider context of his divisiveness and hatefulness, as well as signposting other figures who produce similar lifestyle content without the underlying misogyny, could be an important step in combating his influence on younger, female audiences.

I think the source provides a nuanced picture and offer suggestions how to combat his influence that got lost in the short notion in the guardian article.

[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 9 points 1 month ago

The raw numbers maybe obscure this but aren't the popularity levels are really about how far along the radicalisation they are?

People start watching for the lifestyle and fitness then end up believing the other stuff and watching for that. I guess women stall out more because who could believe that kind of stuff about themselves?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Tate’s motivational and fitness content

Speaking of, let me present to you the anti-Tate

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Fair enough, so there is a possibility that this article (or the surveys it's based on) are being somewhat misleading. I hope you are right

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All I know about Tate's views are that he's a male supremacist of some sort.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

And rapist, human trafficker, scammer, etc etc etc.

Scumbucket for short.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 205 points 1 month ago (12 children)

"Do you regularly watch videos by Jordan Peterson?" kinda needs to become one of those before-first-date screening questions.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You needs to screen your partners SoMe algorithm

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 40 points 1 month ago (5 children)

either that or: ben shapiro, or joe roegan videos.

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[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

What if the answer is yes, but I'm laughing at him the whole time?

Editing this dumb two day old throwaway comment to point out if you want to actually overcome the rhetoric you disagree with, then you need to pay enough attention to it to actually interact with people who take it seriously, because apparently I'm still getting replies.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Still shows that you've got a whole lot of time to waste and that you might be susceptible to eventually fall down the rabbit hole

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[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 107 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Spoilers: there were signs

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah I don't really understand this claim.

My partner and I disagree on a lot of things, but I can predict with near certainty where she stands on things because she my partner, we have shared a life together, and I know her.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Sometimes it's easier to stay with the devil you know than chance the devil you don't.

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[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 33 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they just didn’t pay attention to their partner. Which, not making excuses, is a good part of how they slip there.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 month ago (6 children)

You want a trad wife? Get your sorry ass to work buying her cars, clothes, houses, furnishings so she can focus on making your home. Kids in private school, high class vacations, all of it.

Provider is a title that is earned and I doubt even a thousandth of these blowholes are up to the task of being a trad husband.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Not in that economy, no. That you can't afford a family with a single income anymore is one of the forces that lead to changing role models. Not that i think it's a bad thing.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As long as it's mutually wanted. One of the women interviewed for the article started building her career later in the marriage, and cites her husband's anger at her increasing independence as a major factor in their divorce.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, see, i knew there was a trad wife catch.

Private schools. shudders

[–] yoshman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The private school is the living room.

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 39 points 1 month ago

Thank you, I'd rather be a trophy husband than support a tradwife

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not sure ML is the right place for you hehe

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago

A lifetime of experience has taught me the fastest way to poke through someone's hubris is to take their bullshit deadly seriously.

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