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I really wish that I was born early so I've could witness the early years of Linux. What was it like being there when a kernel was released that would power multiple OSes and, best of all, for free?

I want know about everything: software, hardware, games, early community, etc.

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[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The absolute best thing about it was that after suffering under Microsoft's shitty operating systems for years, you were running a Unix-like on your own hardware. That part was amazing.

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[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

winmodems and modelines were problematic but it was liberating to be able to tinker.

and walnut creek was doing the Lord's work.

[–] bajabound@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Walnut Creek and infomagic saved me so much headache. Can't beat the bandwidth of a FedEx truck, especially when you're 28.8 at home.

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[–] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Back in my day we had to get our Internet at the village Internet well. I remember the dialup modem noises it made as you pulled the bucket up.

[–] callmemagnus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In the 90s, it was hard :-)

It made sense to recompile the kernel to make it fit your hardware.

It was a mess to find peripherals that were working with Linux.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

I built soooo many kernels. 😅

[–] auginator@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Just raw dogged linux and loved it. Lot more stable than windows 95/98

[–] Evoliddaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

I was born in the 80s and never even though about Linux until very recently.

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Imagine a pile of floppy disks, with stuffs inscribed on it that you never heard of....

... will you insert one into your computer and reboot it?

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

friend told me "ah you like hacking at DOS and stuffs, you may be interested in that, it's called 'linouqse' i guess..." so i gave it a shot.

"Slackware"... it was something like kernel 1.3.12 or 1.3.13 i am not sure... it came on 6 or 7 floppy disks.

from the boot already it seemed like nothing i had seen before: all (!) hardware seemed to be methodically enumerated, a bunch of esoteric commands and processed started their bizarre dance before my very eyes. looked already like i was accessing so much more information about the insides of my -then beloved- machine than ever?! this flashes very fast though and is a bit frustrating... then a rudimentary install menu, in text mode, asking a lot of questions.

.... trying all of this and failing many times, getting an old hard disk in a secondary bay to dedicate to the exercise... getting to it again and again (there was no Internet, where i was, then)... until finally, the thing boots up. a login prompt. i had remembered the password chosen upon install, that was it!

... a shell? i had never heard of Unix before, 100% of my previous practice before was with micro-computing, from 8bit to 16bit to DOS PC and its laughable Windows 3.1 (tm)...

...... what am i gonna do with all this, now?!

[fiddling...]

[months passed]

... "xf86something"....? what? some more configuration? some more esoteric? Where does that lead me? wait.

..... a graphical environment just popped out of my console?! with windows and shits?!!? this was there since the very beginning, like it was already there this whole time?!?!

🤯

Later on erring back on the side of Win3.1 because its "trumpet winsock" was the obvious, "easy" way to get connected to this new eldorado that opened up around (the year was 1995)... reading more about it on this new "online" helped me figure how to get back on that cool and hacky side, to finally (after months?) get the modem to connect, through PPP, to my ISP....

This is when I decided it would be cool, someday, to make this my primary OS, and that i'll work towards this end from now on. at the same time i heard for the first time of "free(libre) software" and that thing resonated within me as something i didn't know was possible: a way to organize society, based on virtuous principles of sharing knowledge and helping one's neighbor, through the same playful excitement of hacking that had kept me on my toes since i was a child? where do I sign?!

3 years later i decided to never boot a Windows OS again, and here I am, ranting on lemmy like i am 275 years old.......

[–] JoeBidet@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

oh yeah that, and compiling your kernel! Felt like opening an old spell book or something....

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 month ago

I got a very early version of Debian from a friend when I was in college. I had a very old computer gifted to me but couldn't get Windows to install. I ran that badboy with no window manager, just text. I used elinks for my web browser and pine for email. VI was where I wrote my papers. Drivers were a problem, so I had to save papers on a disk to print from a computer at a library.

[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Please insert Slackware disk Set A disk 3"

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I remember building the kernel with the NE2000 drivers and having a network card for just installation and getting the 3com or RTL driver source over to the new install, then compiling those drivers, installing them, and downing the system to put the proper card in. There was a very small subset of sound cards and video cards that worked reliably. The notion that Linux was the OS where hardware just worked out of the box was ludicrous.

The DEs were pretty horrible and the software to use on them was scant. So desktop Linux was a pipe dream. I used Linux entirely as a security/server appliance. I built a couple hundred iptable/ipchains firewalls for businesses out of recycled pentium type desktops until hardware firewalls became a thing, it was fairly lucrative for a while there.

[–] wallybeavis@lemmings.world 11 points 1 month ago

Prior to the website rpmfind.net, installing software was to put it mildly, a chore. Due to package dependency, you'd start the compile, and it would fail due to missing libraries. You'd then go out and find those libraries, only to have them fail on compile...due to missing libraries...it would go on like until you finally were able to compile the original package - at this point though you compiled it out of sheer spite for the universe that put you in that position.

I rate the experience a solid 5/7

[–] PetteriPano@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My first experience was with two floppy images I found on "So much shareware! Vol.2".

It was labeled Linux 0.99b, no distro. It was not of much use to me at the time.

A couple of years later I got my hands on Slackware 2.0 on CD. So much time spent compiling your own kernel, because no modules and the whole thing had to fit in main memory (640kB). So much time spent fiddling with xf86config hoping you wouldn't fry your CRT.

Good times.

Then came gentoo, which had package management. No more did you have to browse sourceforge for endless dependencies to install something. No more did you have to re-install slackware on your root partition to update. So user-friendly in comparison.

We spent a lot of time on IRC.

MUDs kind of bridged the gap between IRC and games.

I remember spending a lot of time playing abuse, snes9x, quake + team fortress and quake2 + action quake.

[–] muse@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Looking through music and budget software CDs at a computer store or a college vendor table, there would be one with a penguin or BSD mascot. It wasn't like the other discs that had DOS shareware games or utilities. The CD rom drives were 1x speed, attached to a card on the ISA bus, without plug and play, so it needed an interrupt number that didn't collide with other cards. The install process was curses based, with no mouse. There would be much time spent figuring out how to partition the drive, usually after buying a book. Back then, computer book sections were huge. The software install dialog had one line description per package, and it wasn't easy to tell what they did. Then there was setting up X Server and choosing a window manager. Not all video modes were supported, so it took a lot of trial and error with editing config files and resolutions before the the window environment would work. This was before home internet so it would take a weekend or all week to figure out. The only accessible communities in many parts were dialup bulletin boards, unless there was access to a college computer lab with a mosaic or netscape browser. At this point it was realized that I lived in a tech desert, quit my retail job, and moved.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The days before Walnut Creak CD-ROM :-) Waiting for FIDO.NET to be synced at midnight… I think that’s what it was called… shit’s getting hazy.

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[–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

First time I format the whole disk, all msdos data (games) lost. I managed to install it then I opened vim to edit a file and I couldn't get out of vim I know it's a cliche, but there is real. To get out I have to call a friend, using the landline, the one who lends me the floppy disks (or maybe it was magazine cd) and ask he how to get out, he says, just press Shift and Z twice.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why not just install an old version in a VM and find out?

But remember, no search engines for troubleshooting, forums and printed matter only. (And mailing lists and IRC, but they'd probably tell you to Google it, which is off limits for this exercise.)

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Even that could be tricky; these weren't bootable/installable images.

edit: admittedly, I have no personal experience but some years back we tried to help someone install Yggdrasil (in a VM iirc) and did not succeed.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

All installation media is a bootable image. Whether it supports booting on the virtual hardware is another question.

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