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"This is really going to impact institutions that we take for granted," Internet Archive director of archiving and data services Jefferson Bailey told the Standard, "like our museums, our historical societies, our public libraries, our academic libraries — just a lot of people that keep information free and accessible and online."

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Oh gosh Internet archive saw a lot of shit but continued their work no mater what, I got most of old ROMs there its a great digital museum but wrong people in wrong places of power will ruin every beneficial things out there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

He is such a poser.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Musk should really be removed from power.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Vacation to El Salvador. Permanent.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Isn't it weird how "doge" just goes after anything that actually benefits people?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be replaced by something privately funded, if at all.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Genuinely thought that his shirt read "kech support"

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They used to burn books. Now they just defund information storage services.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You know what is so ironic? I remember not that long ago (OK, like 20 years ago...) that once something was on the internet, it is there forever as long as file sharing and multiple hosts do it... but it has become abundantly clearly that, despite the fact that it can be REALLY hard to get shit off the internet, it doesn't make it impossible. We've already seen it happen. The truth is, there is so much stuff that people DON'T widely share, and even then, the interest in their sharing in a torrent style is limited (I once downloaded leaked emails regarding transphobic propagandists talking to one another and while I kept seeding for almost a year, I barely got anyone downloading), that it is actually possible to make large amounts of stuff just vanish.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the real point of the adage, "once it's on the internet it's there forever" is more about the fact that you, personally, can't take it back. Someone might of screenshot, downloaded it, reuploaded it elsewhere. The real meaning being that, once it's on the internet, you no longer control it. Which I think still holds true, but it definitely was heavily implied that it would be there forever.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yes, the trouble with archiving is knowing what will be important in the future, rather than just popular now. We saved a lot of games from the 80’s through 2000’s through piracy, because they were popular to pass around, but we lost a most of the early web because no one thought it would disappear until the internet archive came along.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I've seen several examples of things wiped before, so I've always been a bit skeptical of that adage. I've seen several niche forums, or even forums of small newspapers - just go completely offline.

It might be these are still sitting around on backups somewhere and will some day come to light and be hosted by some entity in an open format...

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

What a time to be alive. It's like Ancient Rome has entered the peaceful minecraft nature server.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Honest question...Can we just pop all that on a server in Canada or something? Couldn't the devs make a deal with another country not bound by your IP law or "government" to save your history along with that of other countries as well?

I'm gonna ask my MP as well.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Canada is another country that claim to be cool but if there are image of burning kids from Gaza or reference to Israel genocide or war crimes they will delete the data themselves.

Best approach would be a decentralized archive.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The author of archive box makes a very strong case for the need for both decentralized and centralized archives like the internet archive: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-changelog-software-development-open-source/id341623264?i=1000678444105

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, until there is any actual examples of Canada banning images. Even in this case, it’s a loss of public funding rather than blocking. The internet archive is mostly privately funded.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm Canadian and I fully agree. Having the discussion on how to protect history is important as we know. That's just what first came to mind. I am also no tech wizard. Just an old man with ideas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

lemmy.world

Why, where is lemmy.world based?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Meaning the entire Internet archive.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

$345,000?

That's like, 2 devs and an 8 CPU VM.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

That's 1/100th the price Trump paid to send innocent people to CECOT.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This publicity will probably bring in more money for the internet archive than what was cut.

Still a dick move by musk, but I'm glad it's not an existential threat to the project.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

For a bit.

Public institutions need and deserve public funding.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, that's like not even a rounding error to the US Government. So obvious what he is doing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

It's trully disgusting and inexcusable.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are far more generous and capable than I am. I started a monthly 5 dollar donation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Every penny helps.

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