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I feel this meme was created by someone who didn't actually know Windows in depth and recently learned of the kill
command. Which by default just asks the process nicely to terminate itself.
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Linux normally does a nice shutdown as well, unless you force it.
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You can force it on windows if you really want.
I'm so tired of linux memes posted/made by people who don't know much about windows or linux.
Absolutely, if people agree or not, the core windows is still a pretty powerful operating system. Its sad that they are ruining it by adding crap into it.
It was simpler using Linux to just kill things unceremoniously, but my coworkers are also consistently amazed when Epic throws a temper tantrum (rare, but it happens) and I walk over and ctrl-alt-delete and tell it to sit down and shut the fuck up until it's ready to reboot and act right.
You can force it on windows if you really want.
Please elaborate
Shutdown.exe -r -t 00 -f
Fast , no mucking around with graceful exiting of stuff. Kicks it in the teefs
If -t is specified -f is assumed and redundant, but also it will try to do graceful l, but with a patience of a cranky toddler
Not really. If -f (force) is removed windows will shutdown similar to pressing the shutdown button and will wait for your input regarding open programs. -f is needed to just just βdo itβ with no hesitation or response from the user.
Straight from the doc
/t Sets the time-out period before shutdown to xxx seconds. The valid range is 0-315360000 (10 years), with a default of 30. If the timeout period is greater than 0, the /f parameter is implied.
Sooo when you use the prompt
Shutdown.exe -r -t 00
You would need the -f since we defined the timeout period as 0. Because:
If the timeout period is greater than 0, the /f parameter is implied.
The process manager lets you kill any process.
You can also click the do it anyway button when it's waiting on shutdown, but I've had less consistent success with that.
Not only do I get this on shutdown I get a job on startup that runs for a minute thirty that looks for a swap partition that I have deleted.
Praise all the syatemd gods
When I forget to close explicitly Steam before shutdown
Dahm been quite a bit since I've seen this one. Wonder what changed on my system?
Don't both GNOME and KDE send sigterm first on shutdown?
Yeah, this meme is bullshit but gets still posted every other month or so. Windows can also just kill a process, similar to sigkill.
Nothing is graceful about Windows. [=
Is this even true? I am fairly sure that Linux also has a graceful shutdown process, but I'll admit I haven't looked into it.
yeah we have SIGTERM for graceful and SIGKILL for not so graceful shutting down a process.
In order of decreasing politeness: 1, 2, 15, 9 = HUP, INT, TERM, KILL = "Please stop", "Quit it", "I'm warning you" and "BANG"
Hup is frequently just "hey, reread your configuration files and keep going"
Except Windows doesnβt. You can send WM_CLOSE, but that may not actually bail out of the core loop. PostQuitMessage() works better for some apps, but not at all for windowless CONSOLE subsystem processes. Windows also has a lot of special behavior around generating signals in other processes. Itβs a mess.
Like, every time I reboot the reboot UI complains about mysterious, unnamed processes that take suspiciously long to quit.
Having the kernel yank the process out of existence with prejudice is definitely the way to go as apps should be hardened for crashing, anyway.
My work laptop always complains that it can't shut down the "Shutting down" app when it tries to shut down.