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    [–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago (9 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Are you sure your currently updating?

    YES DO AS I SAY!

    user@debian> |

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I feel this meme was created by someone who didn't actually know Windows in depth and recently learned of the kill command. Which by default just asks the process nicely to terminate itself.

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    [–] [email protected] 324 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)
    1. Linux normally does a nice shutdown as well, unless you force it.

    2. You can force it on windows if you really want.

    I'm so tired of linux memes posted/made by people who don't know much about windows or linux.

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Absolutely, if people agree or not, the core windows is still a pretty powerful operating system. Its sad that they are ruining it by adding crap into it.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    It was simpler using Linux to just kill things unceremoniously, but my coworkers are also consistently amazed when Epic throws a temper tantrum (rare, but it happens) and I walk over and ctrl-alt-delete and tell it to sit down and shut the fuck up until it's ready to reboot and act right.

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    [–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    You can force it on windows if you really want.

    Please elaborate

    [–] [email protected] 127 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    Shutdown.exe -r -t 00 -f

    Fast , no mucking around with graceful exiting of stuff. Kicks it in the teefs

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    If -t is specified -f is assumed and redundant, but also it will try to do graceful l, but with a patience of a cranky toddler

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Not really. If -f (force) is removed windows will shutdown similar to pressing the shutdown button and will wait for your input regarding open programs. -f is needed to just just β€œdo it” with no hesitation or response from the user.

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Straight from the doc

    /t Sets the time-out period before shutdown to xxx seconds. The valid range is 0-315360000 (10 years), with a default of 30. If the timeout period is greater than 0, the /f parameter is implied.

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Sooo when you use the prompt

    Shutdown.exe -r -t 00

    You would need the -f since we defined the timeout period as 0. Because:

    If the timeout period is greater than 0, the /f parameter is implied.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I use that as a bat file so all I have to do is double click it.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

    The process manager lets you kill any process.

    You can also click the do it anyway button when it's waiting on shutdown, but I've had less consistent success with that.

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    [–] [email protected] 146 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (19 children)
    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Not only do I get this on shutdown I get a job on startup that runs for a minute thirty that looks for a swap partition that I have deleted.

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

    Praise all the syatemd gods

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

    When I forget to close explicitly Steam before shutdown

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Dahm been quite a bit since I've seen this one. Wonder what changed on my system?

    [–] [email protected] 78 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Don't both GNOME and KDE send sigterm first on shutdown?

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this meme is bullshit but gets still posted every other month or so. Windows can also just kill a process, similar to sigkill.

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    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

    Nothing is graceful about Windows. [=

    [–] [email protected] 78 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Is this even true? I am fairly sure that Linux also has a graceful shutdown process, but I'll admit I haven't looked into it.

    [–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    yeah we have SIGTERM for graceful and SIGKILL for not so graceful shutting down a process.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    In order of decreasing politeness: 1, 2, 15, 9 = HUP, INT, TERM, KILL = "Please stop", "Quit it", "I'm warning you" and "BANG"

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Hup is frequently just "hey, reread your configuration files and keep going"

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    [–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Except Windows doesn’t. You can send WM_CLOSE, but that may not actually bail out of the core loop. PostQuitMessage() works better for some apps, but not at all for windowless CONSOLE subsystem processes. Windows also has a lot of special behavior around generating signals in other processes. It’s a mess.

    Like, every time I reboot the reboot UI complains about mysterious, unnamed processes that take suspiciously long to quit.

    Having the kernel yank the process out of existence with prejudice is definitely the way to go as apps should be hardened for crashing, anyway.

    [–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    My work laptop always complains that it can't shut down the "Shutting down" app when it tries to shut down.

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