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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey Switzerland have a look at that instead of saying "F-35 is the best plane in the world and the US administration said trust me bro I won’t fuck you"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

seriously man, the VBS is slowly sinking into oblivion. remaining neutral and appeasing everyone doesn't work in the modern world, you have to pick sides, and last i checked we were still in europe...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

FFS I’m so annoyed at some of our federal counselors. Between all the Viola F-35 shit when France deal was amazing (basically, becoming besties with your neighbor).

The grey-blond milf defending Vance after his NATO speech and a few weeks ago we had some UDC/SVP fuckers saying Trump have some good ideas we should take inspiration from.

WTF? At least it’s good they don’t have that much power and we can vote them to oblivion, unless the population votes like shit… 🤦🏻

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

The people who just spent the last 20 years telling us we had no money for hospitals and trains are now spending billions in weapons.

Scumbags

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Finland should buy 4 Super Rafales and 60-80 Gripens, instead of 64 the US F35's.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Project 2025 is from 2022, Finland joined NATO 2023. They are fully committed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yes I know. And Finns are not easily changing their ways. So 64 x F35 it is then.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Australia should too, although we already have bunch of the shitty F-35's, they are faulty by design, so maybe we can return them for a full refund.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

We told the french we didnt want their submarines too...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

No, best to hang on to them. Usually you have to capture your enemy's planes to dissect, it's rare that they'll sell them to you

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it’s not that they’re faulty. It’s that they’re manufactured by a now overt gangster who may pull the plug, if there’s a plug to pull. And tbh I’d be a little surprised if they didn’t engineer a plug that can be pulled, independent of the physical logistics supply chain.

I repeat, as an American: do not trust our government, in any capacity. We are not your ally any more. I fucking hate that, but that doesn’t matter. Please. For the love of whatever god or honor or morals you hold dear: act accordingly. Do not be naive. Take this seriously. Save yourselves.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah they're kinda shit actually

Like, it's only "cool" in the sense wünderwaffen is cool. Yet, wünderwaffen costed Nazis the war, and it's the same tale again

Sorry but this shit is riling up lost airframes to accidents without an active war and under perfect maintenance, I don't think it's going to hold steady in a war AT ALL

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Wunderwaffe without the ü :)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It is the most advanced fighter in the world, by far. The Saab jets aren't really close and would lose pretty much every simulated encounter with them by a few hundred miles.

But that doesn't make them good for the world. Still, their technical ability should be ignored only at your own peril. It's a stupid thing to not acknowledge the effectiveness of an enemy weapon. But it is now an enemy weapon for much of the world that were former allies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I AM acknowledging the fact that they're advanced, however, just like thay French artillery system in Ukraine, you will often see "cool shit" wünderwaffen shit the bed in actual combat

Pavement princess vs. workhorse, tale as old as time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

That's fair

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Canada should do the same!