Fatima Houssana and 9 of her family members murdered 24 hours after film accepted in Cannes festival : worldnews

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks Palantir! Great job!....

[+] [email protected] -19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Keep your antisemitic bullshit out of this. And I say that as a very anti-Israel pro-Palestinian person. You're making it harder for us to bring Israel's atrocities to attention and be taken seriously. Fuck. Off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, and fuck you.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel will radicalize an entirely new generation from this genocide. If you don’t know what happens to people who lose entire families. Then I would suggest you read up on it.

Until Israel stops their genocide. No one will be safe.

I have experienced Genocide in my own family. Without the proper mental health care. It can become a very toxic and controlling part of your psyche.

But I have said this for 20+ years. Israel will never find peace if they are stealing land and murdering people in their sleep. Just look at the settlers. And what they are doing. This is what radicalizes these people.

Like I told friends who went to fight for the IDF. You’re really not helping by continuing the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know what Israel is doing, and I know there will be consequences. Fuck you, for saying you'll kick back and "sip tea" while random Jews reap "karma". You're doing Israel's work for them. I spit on Israel, and I spit on you.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

im sorry to upset you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No you're not, your openly cheering on the murder of a demographic for the actions of a nation state. Even the unrelated ones. Even the ones fighting against it. You don't care, you just see all Jews on the planet as an acceptable target.

You're not sorry and you're not 'healed' as you like to claim. You are not ok. Ok people don't do this.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Oh you apparently assume that jewish = supports israel. You're just like everyone else who conflates antisemitism and antizionism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Will it matter to someone who lost most of their family? If not all of them? My family went through a genocide and I know how that anger can fester and grow into unhealthy behaviors. I’ve forgiven the monsters that murdered my family. But I doubt many people can really achieve this. As I took radical steps to see through the hate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well... yeah I mean I do actually think people can see past that. I know of holocaust survivors who later became friends with not just germans but even people who were active nazis. If you're saying the cycle of violence can never end then we don't really need that kind of negativity around here IMO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m just saying no matter what. Without pure peace. There will always be radicalized individuals that come out of these genocides. Sure a few of us can forgive. But that’s not the norm.

Both sides have to give up fighting. Put down the guns and treat one another like brothers and sisters. Until that happens. It will be an endless conflict.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I suspect that non-radicality is actually the norm, because who can really be bothered. But all it takes is a vocal minority of radicalized people to keep the fire burning, and to flip non-radicals.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel conflates them. Then again Zionism is antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Yes I am well aware that Israel conflates them. I am saying Cocopanda is just like the Israelis in this regard.

Can you explain how Zionism is antisemitic? That's quite a hot take.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Zionism is based upon the myth that everyone hates Jews and that Jews can’t live among other people. I am awfully summarizing what I heard an antizionist rabbi say.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Regardless of whether it is true or false that Jews are a target of hatred, it would not be antisemitic to think that they are. In other words, believing antisemitism exists is not antisemitic. (Personally, I believe antisemitism is absolutely real, but being anti-Israel is not antisemitism. For instance, the KKK excluded jews.)

I also think it's not antisemitic to think that Jews would benefit from a homeland of their own, despite the fact that antisemites helped create Israel. That's not the same as believing Jews cannot live among other people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Whatever it may be, it should have never been made our problem and should have never been right in the middle of the Arab World. But there is a Christian Evangelical and European Colonial aspect to Zionism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Well yeah, but now you're saying something very different from what you were saying before. And I agree, Israel was a mistake. Unfortunately it's a problem that's hard to fix now.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

it should have never been made our problem

The cleaves between the faiths have exsisted there for thousands of years. Israel is a new power, but the participatory Abrahamic religions are not. Nor are most of the peoples there. Its best to remember European Jewish weren't the only peoples to build up Israel.

I think you've gone too far with your comment.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 weeks ago

“The Israeli army said it bombed the house because there was a Hamas officer in there, which is totally false. I know the whole family. It’s nonsense. It’s just so devastating.”

So, this wasn't even a random bombing. It was 100^100% deliberate precise targeting.

It's not even shocking anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

I'm trying my best not to hate, but people gotta take notice. Straight up genocide and apartheid plus American money is paying for it. I understand some isrealies don't agree with the genocide and Hamas is kinda holding the Palestinians hostage, but dam it's a slaughter. It's easter passover and rammadan, so everyone will pray to justify going back to killing. Gotta love religion as politics to gain profit for those in control.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hamas is the official representative of Gaza. They were elected. They are a government under war of annihilation and occupation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Hamas is the official representative of Gaza. They were elected.

What makes you say this? Do you not realize this "election" happened all the way back in 2006?

Do you know how long ago that was? 19 years.

Do you know what the median age in Gaza was in 2020 (before this recent escalation in genocide)? 18 years old.

In my opinion 20 years per election might not be an ideal timescale for a democracy.

I'm trying to assume good faith so I'm confused why you'd argue that's adequate representation?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Israel and the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank have blocked elections since then. But you are right that half of Gazans weren’t even born when Hamas won the last elections.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's a good faith argument for a ghetto/prison?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

What? There aren't any?

If I explained to you ghettos are horrific and violate human rights, because as one example among so many other issues we would likely agree on, they strip a people of their right to fair elections and representation in the determination of their future.

And that the fact that Palestinians have not been free to organize, form new political parties and campaign in safe and uncoerced elections is a direct violation of their rights and the party to answer and blame for this is the one occupying them and preventing this from happening...

What are we disagreeing about?

What I disagree with is that an election an entire generation before the present that people alive never voted in should not be held up to represent their current politics and beliefs as a nation.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

Website name is uncanny

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago

Read this article if you want to feel horrible and powerless

[+] [email protected] 84 points 3 weeks ago

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