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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (15 children)

After the 20th Century it became clear that war could spread anywhere at any moment and destroy vast swaths of people and nature indiscriminately.

The world had no choice but to ally with really big baskets. The USA was the most obvious choice given their lack of hostile landgrabs unlike China and Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Then: "Who would be insane enough to take on the Donnager?"

Now: "I didn't think we'd lose"

(The Expanse Reference, sorry I love making references)

Kinda fitting tho, since the Donnager was

spoilerbeing boarded by the enemy, but they manage to self destruct the ship before it was taken over.

Except, now, we're dealing with a Protomolecule scenario, and the UNN Agatha King is about to spread it to the entire system.

Maybe someone in the white house should do the same. Initiate the self distruct sequence before the rest of the country (state and city governments), and the rest of the world gets taken over.

Kill the protomolecule before it kills us.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 days ago (9 children)

After WW2 the world was split into 3 categories: first world (Western nations), second world (the Eastern bloc) and third world (everyone else)

America and the USSR both vyed and destabilised a lot of nations to solidify their place as super powers, America gained its power from the British when its economy shifted to war production to support them.

America made a lot of smart moves, like establishing the IMF so the US Dollar is used for international trade, and America has historically honoured all debts through the IMF.

So lots of nations had to kowtow to America to an extent if they wanted to have decent international trade.

Under Trump America is giving up its soft power for isolationism, and you can see a large portion of the world trying to shift away from Americas system through things like BRICS or incentivising different energy systems instead of oil

There is a lot more to this, but I think that's at least a start to your question

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

Because it was safe and stable with a history of being safe and stable. It was easy to lose that reputation, and it will be difficult to get it back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

did the rest of the world just put all its eggs in the america basket?

No, you don't throw your eggs into a basket when the basket is foo far away.

It's quite the other way round. Imagine the North American continent drifting away from all other continents at the same time, and at an increasing speed.

This hasn't been caused by the orange problem. It was observable several years earlier. But when they decided to afford their orange problem for the first time, it increased the speed significantly. And now it is increasing again, and both speed and acceleration increase.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago

you are asking so many questions in so few words. but i'm not knocking you for that. just be aware that the full answer to that misleadingly small question is going to require a substantially larger answer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Usually because of coercion tbh. Do you think we just sell our shiny militech?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I thought nobody wanted to give us eggs... 🤔

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago

Much of the world has had the choice of putting your eggs in their basket, or having all your and your descendants eggs broken forever/taken away. Same thing with Europe.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Its duty?!

The US has no mandate to meddle in international affairs, any more than a bully in grade school has a duty to stop smaller bullies from picking on their own victims.

The US has never been an international savior, it's the only country in the world to have dropped nuclear bombs on civilians.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Everyone, everywhere, has a duty to stop fascism and help their fellow man, regardless of what ultimately insignificant speck of a human decided to put a line on a map.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think every country has a duty to its people to fight fascism. I don't think that means military occupation but there are other things. If we learned anything from WWII being isolationists allowed the murder of millions of jews.

But I'm not here to argue with you so please do not respond.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What other things, specifically?

Imo fascism is a natural consequence of hate and apathy. Introspection by individuals and willingness to change are how you overcome those issues. Governments can't force people to empathize but perhaps better education and less superstition can help.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Fascists within?

[–] [email protected] 174 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but also no. America has put a lot of work into breaking every other basket.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago

America spent about a hundred years burning baskets everywhere until theirs was the only one left

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