"Dark green is a color that is both dark and green. It is important to note that when choosing colors, dark green is associated with plant life, particularly trees. "
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Listen, brown, light green, red, and pink paid for advertising and that matters much more than your search query
Maybe I’m bad at colors
Destroy the advertising industry. Burn it alllll down
my favorite thought exercise about advertising:
"without it, we would have to pay out of pocket for ad supported services!"
ok but when a company pays for advertising, where are they getting that money from? an added cost on the products we're buying! so we're paying for product A, we're paying extra for product A to pay for product B with advertising spending AND we're funding product A's marketing department to make the ads on top of that
remove the advertising and we would pay less for product A, we could then afford to pay for B directly AND we would all pay less overall because we take ad department employees and costs out of the equation. we're literally all paying more for everything overall by having some things "free with ads" than if we just paid for everything in the first place with no ads
Advertising isn't an inherently bad thing; it's just gotten way out of control.
Advertising is an inherently bad thing. You have been indoctrinated by a culture dominated by ad men for the past 70 years
Advertising does the above image the overwhelming majority of the time: it funds a product or service and then uses that role as a funder to insidiously destroy the service. Advertising has recognized that customers realize it’s toxic impact so it now quickly entrenches itself in every single industry and product that has eyes on it whenever possible at all costs so it can continue its sociopathic process of destroying functionality and ignoring ethics in favor of “what’s the right product? The one I am selling, of course”
What do you possibly think advertising is good for? Telling you about medicine so you can second guess the doctor that has had decades of experience and insist upon something you heard about on hulu? Destroying everything that was good about the Internet? Plastering every space with so much visual clutter and vibrant color because it drives sales that people now covet muted color palettes at home to escape the constant stimulation?
Destroy the advertising industry
You do realize that not every business in the country that advertises is a mega conglomerate bent on world domination, right?
Okay, how do those small businesses handle their advertising?
Facebook, google, shitty firms that use local direct mailing campaigns, etc. Sure, your local mechanic isn’t scheming to topple democracy and ruin every product, but they are enabling those who do and skewing results to give themselves an unfair advantage over newer businesses that enter the market because they have the privilege of having the capital to do an adsense buy and maybe hire someone who can fuck with SEO bullshit
Advertising does not need to exist. There simply needs to be a directory of businesses. If I search for mechanics I can find the ones around me. Boom, done. The yellow pages worked for years. I don’t need google to skew results to show me a specific mechanic that happened to spend more money on advertising. I don’t need a random flyer in my mail that reminds me that the concept of a mechanic is still a thing that exists and they happen to be in my area, shocker.
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How do people find new products or services without some form of advertising? Yeah everything you said was bad, but they all have solutions if the government is willing. Many countries do not allow advertisements of pharmaceuticals, for example.
Searchable directories. Word of mouth. Community recommendations.
Or just ask the person at the store that sells the things.
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Products and services should only be findable when you actually need them. Think using a search engine to find a specific good, or a business sign labeling an establishment. Such bare bones information could be considered advertising, but it does less to to drive human behavior than facilitate it. It's not convincing you to get something, but helping you get what you already decided you need.
The advertising problem, like all problems in capitalism, stem from the ever increasing desire to outcompete and be the only power in town; the need to not just meet the needs of society, but have more power than everyone else in society. Competition drives innovation, but to what end?
Spoiler alert: the end is holding power over fellow men, not making life better for you or them. This evolutionary force optimizes for something other than you as an individual, just like Darwinian evolution.
There was a sticker to put on your mailbox a long time ago:
"Publicity no thank you, Information yes thank you" (or something along those lines).
Publicity is trying to sugarcoat information, we never need that.
I'm more with the opposite view: Advertising, which is manipulating people into buying your product, IS inherently a bad thing. Although some cases may be legitimate.
How do you expect people to find out about new businesses? Especially ones without a brick and mortar storefront.
A directory of businesses that is free of gaming the system by paying to play was once the goal of google. If that if functional it is excellent and all it needs to be. It also prevents more established businesses from having even more of an unfair advantage. They already have word of mouth and reviews; why should they be able to simply buy a space that places them on top of popular queries and drown out anyone who enters the market?
Like back in 1999-2002 or so google was constantly adjusting their algorithm to stop people who gamed SEO. Their goal then was that when you searched “custom garfield cum blanket” you got stores that sold exactly that, and ideally the original one if there were knockoffs. That’s what made them a household name and the “king of search” and why you don’t hear about altavista or ask Jeeves anymore
Then they started to realize there was a market emerging for people that could master SEO and slowly but surely they just gave into the advertising side of things. It started with allowing SEO bullshit to go unchecked and eventually turned into now where you can literally buy the first 1 or 2 results of a search query, the first page is useless, and the second page is gone to direct you to a new search that can generate more ad revenue. They’ve utterly destroyed their product
They put a sign on the building that says "Now Open", put the building on the maps, and invite local food critics in for a review.
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There's a good article about how a few years ago the search division at Google rolled out improvements to search but then the ad division complained that revenue was being impacted because people spent less time looking through search results and thus ended up seeing and clicking fewer ads. The executives came out on the side of the ad division and Google rolled back a bunch of those improvement apparently.
I guess this mostly came out in some court case where a bunch of emails about it were released
it's not just google. over in windows-land, informational text and documentation that used to be presented in locally-stored help files or displayed on screen are now links to bing searches that open in edge. because having documentation isn't profitable, i guess.
The person who made this deserves the salary of all big tech CEOs as a reward
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Missing the paragraph of ai generated slop at the top explaining how dark green is the light shade of a mixture of yellow and dark.
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