Go on then, go on, what's the goddamned holdup?
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Patience young padwan, they need to do this right and carefully, so it fucking sticks in their eye
The last time I fell for that was the Mueller report.
Show me someone slowly fighting against what is happening and I will show you someone grandstanding, on the take or an idealist out of touch with things
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So what? Do it. Nothing will come of it. Congress sure as hell won't impeach and remove. Certainly no one will be put in any type of custody.
Sure. Do it for the record. Unfortunately it's meaningless for the foreseeable future.
It can be pardoned too. Congress is the only entity that can stop this bullshit but it won't.
I can't believe people still believe in the courts. It's insane to watch from the outside. You enshrined a dictator who has proven many times in the past that he has no regard for the courts at all.
If members of his administration are convicted of crimes for following his orders, their replacements may not be as willing to overstep the law.
Dunno if anything will shake up the nut house.
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Fucking do It already. Everyone involved from the ground up.
He will just pardon them, there’s no reason not to it not like trump has to face the music.
This is as fast a just court can go. If you want it done more quickly, we’ll need Republicans in Congress to find their spines.
They only have until the 23rd to substantiate their defense before Boasberg charges them. He also states that if Trump’s DoJ refuses to comply, he will appoint an attorney to do so.
Dems too.
That’s assuming people actually turn out to the primaries. At least they’re doing what they can to oppose this compared to the Republican enablers.
Look at the voting records since j20.
I have. What vote are you challenging? The CR was not the leverage people say it was. A shutdown would permit Trump to terminate non-essential workers under the lack of funding portion of his emergency executive order. None of the other votes are problematic in that they passed with simple majority and Democrats have minority.
They did, however, take every opportunity to confirm Biden’s pending judge appointments when Republican attendance was low, prompting Johnson’s push for proxy voting. They also mandated a 15-day vote against Trump’s emergency EO, which prompted Republicans to redefine the congressional calendar to avoid holding. They’re also the ones partnering with the ACLU to bring these cases to the courts, and are now flying to El Salvador to press Bukele into compliance.
They did a lot of public performance, for sure. They also voted yes on confirmation hearings and iirc a couple of other things. But establishment Dems are not our friends. Take what you need, leave the rest.
The ones where they all block voted no, the ties were broken by Vance. Like I said, they haven’t tipped a vote that Republicans wouldn’t have won.
I’m not a fan of centrist Democrats, but there are many progressives in Congress now, and they’re doing what they can to stop this. Branding them all as the worst of them is ignorant.
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Sounds like that's where it's heading:
If the government refuses this offer, Boasberg held, it must swiftly identify the officials who violated his orders so they may be criminally prosecuted, facing fines and potential jail time. Critically, Boasberg notes that if the Department of Justice doesn’t appoint a prosecutor to take the case, he will do so on his own.
Annnnnd then Trump Pardons them
Then you roll over like a bitch while everybody else does what they can to help, but keep quiet next time.
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swiftly identify the officials who violated his orders
I think this is likely to be the hangup. Everything with this administration is so chaotic and ad-hoc that it might be hard to pin it on a single person or group. If they don't have beyond-reasonable-doubt certainty that the person they're holding in contempt is responsible, it'll probably just get overturned, weakening the bigger Trump v Courts battle.
Sounds like a RICO case then.
I'm not sure you can easily turn contempt of court into a criminal conspiracy charge.
Money was exchanged for ~~humans~~ human resources, in illegal activity.
-"Who was responsible for XYZ?"
- "I don't recall."
Pretty much this is what I'm worried about. Hopefully the government record keeping laws are robust enough that they can eke out a real answer about responsibility by threatening additional charges over failure to document those.
assuming they weren't sent via self-destructing Signal messages, which itself is a violation of records law
I'm pretty sure they are using a private network for email exchanges.
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You're probably not wrong, but hopefully there's at least a paper trail the judge can work his way up.
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