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I am not following this topic.
As I understand it this means that a man that in some way transforms to a look like a woman (since the internal feeling is that of a woman) are still considered a man.
What are the practical rights differences between a man and a woman under UK law?
goofy how the "equality act" differentiates between different types of people
UK really wants to be an American colony so badly right now. Get ready to lose your NHS and pensions soon enough.
They now thinking about repealing hate speech laws to please JD Vance.
Off to the EU I go
Now define "biological female".
Right? Is this phenotypic or genotypic?
phenowhazzle?
Is it the DNA or T and A?
DNA or TNA he says, that's gold! 😂
Total Nucleic Acid (mixed DNA and RNA extracted from a sample together)
Then they should update the Equality Act.
Yeh, my understanding is that this was a ruling on the current law, they said that if they rules otherwise, the law would be unworkable I think?
So therefore parliament should legislate properly about it rather than just trying to bend what already existed.
Wonder how much money that notorious TERF Rowling paid this court.
Reality and science disagree, but whatever.
Truth doesnt mean a thing to people full of hate...
That's bullshit.
The rules obviously got set up with a specific definition that was understood at the time. Changing the definition after makes no sense. It changes what the rule was about in the first place.
There are still laws about trans people.
Trans people are just people. It's like saying "there are still laws about black people" in the Jim Crow South.
Laws should be written to be inclusive, not exclusive. When laws are written in these fragmented ways it is the exact purpose of right wingers to exploit them. It is written to SERVE THE POWER OF OPPRESSION.
This is the same as "gay people can have civil partnerships". While ignoring that it is literally just a method used to exclude gay partners of the same rights married partners have.
It's the same "separate but equal" bull shit that has existed over and over. I don't know how "well intentioned liberals" keep falling for this same trick over and over again throughout our history.
The rules on "sex" are entirely based on social definitions of gender norms. Or tell me you would be confused by seeing this guy walk through TSA with F as his sex.
Edit: I really should not have to use "passing" trans people to make my point. But I feel like people live in a different reality where every ID check is followed up with a genital inspection.
I don't suppose that's true, is it. Laws change over time, right? And different people have different understandings even at a fixed time.
But this isn't about changing a definition, it's about expanding recognition to a previously mischaracterised portion of the population.
If racoons were at one point considered to be cats but now we know they're actually much closer related to bears than anything else, are we changing the definition of "cat" and "bear"?
rules obviously got set up with a specific definition that was understood at the time
Oh boi, having studied law, i can confidently say that using words with no clear definition in laws and trying to apply them is one of the main problematic and debate fuel of judges and lawyers.
And "man/woman" are clearly not words with one specific definition, even in the past (maybe people cared less about the definition, but it does not make it more specific).
This is the precise reason why that clip everyone lost their mind over was using the wording "birthing person" when discussing rights related to abortion.
You can get your "anti-woke" panties in a bunch for terms like this. But there is a reason they are used when deciding laws. It is meant to very very specific and at the same time being very very inclusive to the rights the law is meant to protect.
It's so no asshole tries to take away your rights on a technicality they made up in their mind.
No one is calling women, nb's, or trans men "birthing persons" except in this specific context and for very good reason.
Makes sense. I think it's possible to hold this belief and still be pro-trans rights. There's literally not a limit on the number of laws we can have, seems silly to change what a legal woman is rather than include transgender women people as an additional group that these laws can apply to.
A legal woman? Let me ask you a simple question. What law should be made that should be different for men than women? Laws should be able to cut gender/sex completely out and exist or they are inherently sexist.
I would be interested to hear trans’ users opinions on whether they view themselves and/or prefer to be treated as literally the same as the other biological gender, or something different.
E.g., male-to-female trans folks, do you hold that there is only one kind of woman and you are no different from those born as women?
Or do you think that transgender people have a fundamentally different experience, and thus trans women are a little different category of women?
I don’t mean any offense by the question, I’d really just like to know how people see themselves.
Yep, my point exactly. Admittedly I am not a trans person, but my understanding is that trans people have slightly different concerns, protections and risks than cis people.