Interesting. Only Fedora seems to be available in Norway.
I'm still 2 years away from a new work laptop (my current one is doing just fine anyway), but when the time comes, I might go for this. Was thinking about going ThinkPad+Linux anyway.
this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2025
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That's a funny way of sayin' that a Windows Home license costs $211.00.
Lenovo's architecture sucks regardless what OS is on top. My opinion.
Wow. $211 is a steep discount. People are going to buy with Linux just to save money, some will try it (because it is there), and some may like it and stay.
At the very least, people may learn that Windows is no easier to install (or even harder).
Windows is no easier to install (or even harder).
I've installed both recent windows and common distros many times by hand (where unattended wasn't trivial) and found everything except latest windows 11 quite similar (including arch) and very easy. Current windows 11 afaik needs registry hacks but I've not installed one yet.
Shipping it with Linux is the easiest way to convince a consumer that it does run Linux. :)
They will pay you to take it!
Now if only Asus did that as wel, then we'd be balling
Awesome, I wish more computer manufacturers did this and actually gave you the ability to choose the OS to ship your PC with, especially with how much cheaper it is to not include Windows with activation. Wow.
Exactly. I currently have a notebook which is very well made. But it still sucks that I had to pay the windows license which is of no use : (
Get the laptop without an OS
Install a trial copy of windows
Go to massgrave.dev.
I'm pretty sure for most people the OS choice isn't about avoiding to pay, Linux simply is better. I also wouldn't switch to Windows if I got paid 200€.
That's really cool, but the Spyware and AI bloat is still an issue
Yeah, absolutely. Pretty much all of my devices are on some variant of Debian, but that's not always feasable for some folks, so with that method, at least you're not paying Microsoft through the nose for the privilege of harvesting your data.
It looks like (at least here in the U.S.) that this is the only model that allows selection of the OS. I looked at cheaper models of different product lines by them and they all include Windows 11.
I don't understand why companies don't offer more Linux options these days, there's zero excuse
Because no one buys Linux PCs. Dell used to sell multiple lines of laptops with Linux, but pretty much no one was buying apart from a few freaks.
Instal Windows everywhere and get cheaper Windows.
Offer Linux and lose the offer from MS.
So, offering linux was bad for business. Was. Bevause thanks to work communities did in Linux and marketing from Steam...and Proton, Linux stopped beimg a thing you'll easily lose clients over.
Partnership and contracts not to be confused with lack of excuse.
Wtf I dont have that option when I look at the same laptop on the nz version of the website.
Yeah looks like the AU/NZ version of their site does not have those options. Not that I'd be out buying a new laptop anytime soon, but a used laptop 😎
Would be nice if started with Linux as "included" and then added the 211 for windows.
If they did that sales would drop because people would switch to another manufacturer that gave them Windows for "Free".
honestly I prefer being able to subtract from the base price and have it actually be an improvement too
Marketing. Theyd never do that.
Could also be a bulk licensing requirement. Ms pulled that shit with DOS.
Thought DOS was free
For sure not. It built Microsoft.
It's weird how the price drops when something "included' gets removed. Am I misunderstanding that word?
They said it was included, not that it was free. I imagine removing the “included” screen would drop the price too.
And you save money? Oh man, the path of least resistance just changed.
I don't know if it's not scrolled enough but here we have another option which is "no os at all" and you save another 30€
Shit like this gives me hope for the future
Oh those price tags make me happy
$200???????
$200 less (you save money not buying windows)
Which makes the win11 pro license $297? That's obscene.
Windows licenses ain't cheap. Never have been.
you can get them for like 20$, probably even cheaper but i paid about 20 not 6 months ago for w11
I see 11 Pro straight from MS for $200, why the fuck are they charging almost $300 for it? lmao
edit- someone pointed out it's CAD
the same reason they charge 30 for Linux
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