Television

It's pretty amazing how out of touch Netflix can be

I considered reading the books before the series came out, and I’m really glad that I did didn’t. As a result, I fully enjoyed the show.

Picard lost me the moment they had a scene where a bunch of down on their luck blue collar workers were complaining about shitty rations and being forced to work on a holiday.

WHAT PART OF POST-SCARCITY LUXURY GAY SPACE COMMUNIST UTOPIA DID YOU INBRED FUCKING DOGSHIT FOR BRAINS MORONS NOT GRASP?

I swear to god, Picard is a Star Trek show written by people who have apparently never watched a single episode of Star Trek in their entire lives. Unbelievably poor grasp of the basic concepts of the setting, and of Roddenberry's core thesis. And it's not like you can't make Star Trek grimy if you want to. Deep Space Nine did it frequently, playing with concepts of liberty vs security and so on. But the writers of Picard were just too lazy to engage with the core ideas of the setting and instead just wrote a bunch of generic, broadly science fiction filler and then slapped the Star Trek logo on it.

Discovery I feel more kindly towards, even though it was also terrible. It at least makes some kind of an effort to be Star Trek, which automatically puts it above Picard, but god that is such a low bar. It still has the same basic problem of being written by people who seem to be deeply embarassed about the idea of writing Star Trek. They had to go in and try to retcon in a bunch of crazy tech, rewrite huge parts of the setting, throw out everything about the Klingons and start from scratch, all out of some kind of weird hatred for the universe in which they were telling stories. Also, dear god it was just incredibly slow and dull. Some of the worse pacing I've ever seen.

Thank the lord almighty for Strange New Worlds. If you're soured on all the new Trek and skipped it because you were worried about it being more of the same, holy fucking shit go watch it now! Strange New Worlds is perfect. It's a Star Trek show written by people who absolutely adore Star Trek. It's a love letter - a love anthem - to the original series. And it manages to somehow find an unearthly balance between being one of the most campy and fun takes on Star Trek, and one of the darkest and scariest. There's a musical episode, and there's an episode that's basically "What if the plot of Aliens happened on the Enterprise?" and somehow both of them fit in the same show perfectly. Also, THE KLINGONS ARE FUN AGAIN! They're loud and boisterous and drink blood wine and yell "Qapla" while they headbutt each other and it's fucking great.

STD was just garbage, too much pushing a METOoMOVEMENT, by S4, they decided that men were no longer needed in the LEAD casts. Picard definitely wouldve better if not for the low energy acting of the main characther, and the rest of the cast, plus writing too.

I viewed the TV show like a YA drama and it came across a lot better because of it.

Agreed! I was so disappointed with the show because the books being adapted as a TV show could have been very successful if they stuck to the source material.

I think another way it could have been better is if they made it a completely different story, maybe focusing on the Seafolk or Sharans, any other untold/developed story, even another turning of the wheel, the collapse of the AOL.

When I heard they were making it, I told my friends that if they did it right, it would be bigger than Game of Thrones.

Then I saw the first trailer. From that alone, I knew they did not do it right. Watching the first season only confirmed it for me.

Damn that sucks they couldn't tap into the success of the 1st one, I enjoyed it until it got very "samey" in the storylines and foibles the law firm got into.

everyone agreed SEASON 1 was bad, season 2 it was getting interested but it was cancelled long before the season began. apparently s3 would have much more of the mysterious aliens from the planet builders in it.

You didn't like As The Universe Turns?

First episode got me hopeful, but the series dragged on. Forcing us to watch little webclips for lore and story bothered me.

It was very clear that they had no respect for the source material and just wanted to make their own show but this was the only way it was getting funded. Then to double down and insult the fan base was just beyond dumb.

Oof. Yeah, that one really hits. Great start, then creative differences collapsed the whole endeavour and it just went to shit.

And it's not like I can even recommend the book anymore given, well... y'know.

Just a fucking mountain of disappointments on disappointments.

I didn't consider it disappointing, I considered it a decent starting point for better seasons.

I was born before we had a 5 minute tiktok attention span and if we weren't blown away by the first episode that meant everything was obviously garbage.

Watch TNG season 1, one of the worst seasons of anything ever.

I loved the 1st two seasons! Although season 1 was far better. Season 3 I have vague memories of and season 4 I gave up. They never should have left the park, that was the best bit.

Oh yeah. One of the biggest falls from grace in TV imo.