this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2023
31 points (97.0% liked)

Science Memes

10950 readers
2091 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Capitalism strikes again

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Kinda fucked up that it's not only about being smart or having the tenacity to acquire these kind of jobs but that it's also depending on the altruistic mindset and resiliency of people. The pool of people having most if these traits is quite slim..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Publish or perish.

Academic publishing is in a very weird place and is very, very political. Its true that authors have to pay to have their papers published in most journals or conferences after they've been accepted, but like all things academic, this is highly dependent on the field. Some universities will reimburse professors publishing costs, others need to pay out of pocket or with grant/public funding.

While its true that there are open-access journals and conferences without such costs, I would wager that most well known researchers would avoid such avenues of publication due to prestige. The larger journals and conferences have review boards where the top scientists in the world sit on them. As a potential published author with such an outlet, its a great honor to even be considered. Most researchers don't want to take the risk of going with a less prestigious outlet if it will run the risk of smearing their image or damaging their ability to publish in better outlets in the future.

Source: Was a Doctoral candidate that ran the whole ringer besides the dissertation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has there been an attempt at a charity-based distribution platform, á la Wikipedia?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that sometimes you also do work for that journal, telling them if a paper is good enough or not for them, and also basically don't get payed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To mention the obvious, it's the same network effect that keeps people on X and Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To stay obvious, what's fascinating is that those networks are small, its members the most intelligent people available and they meet each other regularly in person at conferences.

Why do they accept the lock-in?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Not every community does it this way. For example, computational linguistics put most of their conference proceedings online for free: https://aclanthology.org/. Deep learning researchers just publish a lot of stuff to arxiv.

Academic publishers like Elsevier are predatory scammers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Where there's a platform, there's enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my discipline we only pay if we want the article to be open access. Are there journals that charge $1000 and still put articles behind a paywall?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I know, the big ones charge very high processing fees

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Processing fees"

Ensuring the Docx file shows up right in PDF format.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well except a lot of the time it's LaTeX, and the journal already makes the authors check their tex files work with the journal's article class.