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I'm refinancing this terrible loan and the bank person grimaced when they saw this.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Loans with interest rates above inflation are weapons. They are violence. Why should we all have to pay more than something is worth for our education, our transportation, our housing? Why are we paying directly for these things at all?

Government should be providing all this for its people. Higher education should be provided. Starter housing should be provided. Public transportation should be provided.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

You pay for the ability to access capital you do not currently have. Nobody owes you thousands of dollars with which to but a car. If you want to buy a car with money you don't have, then you have to give the bank something in return. That something almost always is "more money than we initially lent you, over the course of the loan period" and if you shut that down, banks just won't give loans anymore. Suddenly poor and middle class people have lost their biggest tool for accessing capital.

Lack of public transport is a separate problem. The US has dropped the ball across the board there. Only a handful of cities have any reasonable public transport and even those systems are old and often shitty.

Education being so expensive that it needs to be financed, is a separate problem. Education is too important to leave to the free market, letting our system metastacize to this extent is the result of decades of compounding failures.

16.9% interest is predatory, but "interest above inflation" is necessary if you want banks to do anything besides hoard money.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Always buy from a person not a dealer. Look for a model known to be reliable and cheap to fix and maintain. I bought a 95 Ford Ranger for $1,800 and am still driving it 5 years later. I’ve maybe put another 2k into it from oil changes, tires and brakes. People pay way too much for bells and whistles.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I did this in my younger years and the cars I got always had some hidden fucked up problem.

The most notable was cemented in spark plugs, rip that Honda Civic I drove it till it couldn't hold on anymore lmao it ended up sitting for a long while then someone stole the catalytic converter lmao

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

That's just typical brazilian interest rates

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Check with and get pre-approval from a credit union or two near you. Go with that pre-approval for the car you want.

Rarely do the dealers find or provide a better deal. DON'T let them focus you on your monthly payment. Look at the complete picture.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

hey millenials: car dealers are not a good choice of bank. please tell your generation about credit unions: https://www.logixbanking.com/rates/vehicle-loans

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Definitely shop around, but sometimes the dealership does have an actual competitive offer. Especially if you threaten to use external financing (and have the pre approval in hand), they might knock down their interest rate to save the deal, as the loan is where the money actually is.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

And maybe buying something that isnt sold by a dealer....

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