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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I need to use wherewithal more in my daily life

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Disappointed. But didn't the have receptors for differently polarized light? What about that?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Color me appointed, at least we're not missing out on fresh new colors!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

My whole world is crumbling

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Green and red do not come back yellow, it makes brown…or is there some other process they’re describing?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

There is two types of color blending, tint and light.

Tint is what is usually taught, primaries are red, blue,yellow and we make the rest with them.

With light however, the primaries are Red, Blue and Green. Most image editing software use light blending, so you can zoom on a pixel and use a color picker to get its RGB value. And to make yellow with light blending, you combine red and green

Extra fun fact! Tint primaries are actually Magenta, Yellow, and Cyan.

Red + Blue = Magenta Red + Green = Yellow Green + Blue = Cyan

Magenta + Yellow = Red Magenta + Cyan = Blue Cyan + Yellow = Green

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

My apologies if I missed the /s but eyesight works in additive colors, not subtractive

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The shrimp are holier than we are because they cannot see the devil's color (it's pink 🩷)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is clearly embarrassed white

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How did they test if they could see color? Did they make little shrimp dioramas or something?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The easiest way is to use the principles of conditioning. Pair a stimulus with a certain color light, then start flashing up different colored lights. If the organism is cued to the stimulus by multiple colors of lights, it means that they can't really distinguish between them.

That's how we tested when kids lose the ability to distinguish certain phonemes.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago

They asked them politely

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

They give them a miniature color blind print that has those numbers in them that are hidden if you are color blind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

They mean mantis shrimp... this non technical language bothers me so much...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Reminds me a little of CD digital audio. The original Red Book audio standard hasn't really been improved upon because it's uncompressed audio which covers basically all of the range of human hearing within the capabilities of any speaker we could build. It's uncompressed because in the early 80's when the tech hit the market, it was completely unfeasible to include the CPU and RAM needed to decompress audio in real time.

Shrimp has more color receptors because he doesn't have enough neurons to run trichromacy, so he sees in EGA.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh man.

12 year old me waiting for hours to rip mp3s from cds always wondered about this.

Like why isn't it already compressed?

The answer is that storage was available but processing wasn't. Amaze.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mp3 is already compressed, as is the MP2 CDs use.

If it wasn't conpressed, you'd be looking at CDs per track, instead of tracks per CD.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

What are you on about? CD-DA, aka audio CD, aka red book audio, is uncompressed 16-bit PCM sampled at 44100Hz. It is lossless.

MP3 (MPEG-1/2 Audio Layer III) is a lossy encoding standard commonly used for online audio distribution and steaming. MP2 usually refers to MPEG-1 Audio Layer 2, which was most commonly used in Digital Audio Broadcast.

Neither are used in 'regular' CD audio.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'd like to subscribe to the format facts newsletter. Can you do VHS next?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shrimp has more color receptors because he doesn’t have enough neurons to run trichromacy, so he sees in EGA.

love this. nice job :)

VGA vs EGA, from the game 'Police Quest 3'

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I remember experiencing the EGA to VGA graphics evolution when I was growing up. I remember thinking the VGA almost seemed too real.

In my mind, this was a game that felt like it was pretend:

But this felt entirely too real:

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Is moral of your story that adults having frequency detection limited to 16khz, with older adults lower, might still be able to detect music well enough?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't it amazing how birds reverse engineered airplanes?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's silly thinking. Everyone knows birds aren't real, so they're just late-stage planes created by engineers forced to follow certain constraints.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Did a shit job of it too, got the wings all flapping around like a bunch of idiots.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I want to see a bird swing around its break as a propeller.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think this speaks to a significant misunderstanding that most people hold of the way vision actually works.

Most people imagine that vision is a relatively simple process by which our eyes detect and transmit to us the nature of the world. Not so.

Eyes are complex and interesting organs in their own right but fundamentally what they do is relatively simple. They are able to detect and report to the brain certain qualities of the light that hits them. Primarily these are: intensity, direction, and proximity to three points on the frequency spectrum (what we perceive as red, green, and blue). But this data alone is not vision. Vision is a conscious experience our brains create by interpreting and processing this data into the visual field before us—basically, a full scale 3D model of the world in front of us, including the blended information on reflection and emission that color entails.

Quite amazing! Most of this takes place in the human brain, and not the eyes. From this perspective, it is not terribly surprising that an organism with more complex eyes but a much simpler brain might have worse vision than we do.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ha! I read the following Science new article just today about how Purple Only Exists In Our Brains. It's written for a younger audience (I think), but it lays out how our sight works, and how our brains trick us into seeing purple (a red-blue colour, as opposed to violet).

Poor shrimpos, no purple for them, I bet.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s amazing and crazy to think, too, that the “theater” our brains create is an equilibrium point of laziness (to save energy) and usefulness (to help survival). So, surely, there are things we are just unable to see. But also, probably, there are different things that get mapped to the same things in the “theater.” I’m just speculating though but it makes sense.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

We don’t really detect direction of light exactly. Instead we detect the location in the eye where the light landed, and have lenses to focus the light onto our retina. That relationship does imply some of the directionality of the light, by ignoring light that goes in certain directions and relating the direction of light that does get detected to the location it ends up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

*we detect the direction of light by the location in the eye....ect.

There fixed it for you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

ect.

etc. It stands for the Latin words et cetera.

You haven't been saying ectcetera have you? Oh no.

Correctors better come correct.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah I was trying to avoid those details. I think it’s fair to summarize that as a system that detects the direction light is coming from.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By the same logic, we don't detect light, just the change in shape of certain proteins. The sky isn't blue, it's a subset of sunlight. We don't really touch things, we transmit forces with tiny magnets. Computers don't really do math, they just arrange states in certain ways.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The world ~~is beautiful~~ makes my brain release endorphins

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Makes me feel better about being a human. Our eyes are not deficient. Humans are superior!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I... must... be... strong... must... not... do... it... must... resist... the urge...

🎵 But I'm only human 🎶

escondidoWe got shrimp drama before GTA VI

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Shrimp photoreceptor situation is crazy

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