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From this thread over on /r/leftypiece where I've been arguing with vaushites who are currently trying to push people against this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftyPiece/comments/19615j3/me_rn/

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

luffy goes to an island and immediately finds whatever revanchist parties exist, regardless of their political beliefs. he is the most pro-monarchy anarchist on the planet, ascribing a coherent political philosophy to him is a fools errand

but yeah he'd be pro-hamas and pro-houthi

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The actual problem is that Oda is using monarch's as an allegorical stand-ins for politicians, so Luffy overthrowing Walpole's regime but saving Vivi's seems hypocritical from a Leftist perspective unless you sorta glaze your eye's over and replace "King" with "Person who's Ruling the country", cos then Luffy only beats up those who are self-serving and leaves the one's who (largely) represent the wills of their peoples alone.

Except King Triton, yeah the right-wing coup was worse but he deserved it for letting things get that bad in the first place, fuck Fishman Island really is the worst arc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fishman island is about what if malcolm x assassinated mlk and falsely blamed white people for it to get more people to become reverse racist (which is a real thing in this scenario i guess)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

internet-delenda-est

Like, I really really like that the moral of the story is that "racism can arise just from the ambient culture, if inherent biases are left unchecked and unchallenged" but man was this the clumsiest metaphor to do that with, Oda really bit off more than he could chew here

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

yeah oda was absolutely not qualified to tell a story about race and so he defaults to using standard shonen manga style "ahh, the cycle of violence must be stopped," which is basically what he does in skypeia as well

in general, while oda is way ahead of most of his peers in most areas (trans rights included these days, but also he was so far below the curve there for a long while so i'm not going to give him any credit there) he's still a kinda lib guy making an incredibly mainstream piece of serialized art on strict deadlines and i think the number of people acting like it's the most radical piece of art in anime spaces only hurts it

i'm not opposed to allegory (i fucking love revolutionary girl utena, a show that has an insert song that ends with a choir singing "ALLEGORY! ALLEGORIER! ALLEGORIEST!") but when your allegory for political change ends with the rightful king restored almost every single time (including the rightful king of a settler colonial state, the indigenous people of which are leading guerilla warfare against!) i think that the allegory is broken