Only?
I know we talk a lot of shit about Dems but I'm genuinely shocked that many signed off.
this post was submitted on 30 Mar 2025
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They didn't used to be this way, for some reason under Biden they went super anti-immigration
What a load of shit. What time period are you referring to when you believed Democrats were pro-immigrant? Let’s factcheck that shit.
Even Obama deported way more people than Trump, built the immigrant cages, and vastly expanded ICE. Clinton was equally anti-immigrant.
Off the top of my head there is DACA and DAPA. Clinton ran on closing private immigration detention centers.
now it's on the voters to make some democrats disappear.
My state included 9.
"No way to prevent this, say the Democrats who are actively collaborating with the fascists"
Sigh, I see I can't trust my senator to do the right thing anymore. Edit: meaning he didn't sign it. POS trader.
sad as fuck.
The dnc is controlled opposition. We have to get actual progressives elected at local levels and it’ll be a fucking process but it’ll eventually make the party actual opposition
You'll have to throw Chuck Schumer into a retirement home (or a volcano) first.
It’s seeming like it, fucking ghouls run the dnc
And until we get people willing to talk about who is controlling the dnc and why (the zionist) then the dnc will remain trapped in other peoples pockets fwith no conceivable end in sight.
We've been doing pretty good at that in Oregon in the Portland area especially, we got a fair few DSA people elected to the city council and to the state house in the last election. Although I doubt that will ever really convert the Dems into an actual progressive party, it's a lot more likely that the Democratic party dies with the rise of new progressive candidates and new progressive parties winning.
That’s awesome, it’s been like that in St. Louis too at the local level but can’t break past that. If a new party is what’s really needed though, then ideas need to get agreed and things need to become more centralized, I’m seeing like 50 different progressive parties lately and that fragmentation will get us no where
I mean at least from what I've seen of it so far DSA is a fairly good choice, as I think for a party to be really progressive and represent the working class people it needs to be run democratically with party members actually having a voice and vote on what the party does. Which so far most other parties tend to follow the normal party strategy with party leadership and candidates making choices about what policies they want which just seems like a path to another Democratic party down the line that is disconnected from the people.
I think if anything though fragmentation isn't really the problem with breaking past local wins. I think it's more that the higher up you get the more corporate money starts to have a large impact and the harder and more support you need to run a grass roots campaign. The higher up you get the harder it becomes to reach out directly to voters through door knocking and events and the more advertisements and mass media campaigns tend to have influence which is where corporate money thrives. I think the way around this outside of campaign finance reform is building up that local support so you can have those local candidates that have already done outreach directly with their local constituents provide support and endorsement towards electing people at higher levels.
I assume the usual suspects are nowhere to be found on this letter
Pathetic.
Oh no, not the letter!!
Just shows how cowardly the Democrats are now. Most of them were afraid to sign a piece of paper that means literally nothing.
The Democratic party is a party of cowards.
Most politicians are cowards.
Start a new Party jfc
Lots of people are trying but it's not so easy to do. Our voting system is geared to only allow two parties and any actual third party that starts to gain traction gets shut down by the people with money and existing power. I don't think it's strictly impossible but I also don't think we can realistically pull it off. We need a solution outside the existing hierarchy imo
Starting a new party is going to require current elected Democrats to leave the party and start a new one. It probably can't be done by just "lots of people" and has to be done with people who have serious clout.
Why would people who have power and wealth under the current system try to change it?
Well supposedly some of them are "progressives" and want to actually enact progressive change in politics.
🙃
Supposedly.
Between the House and the Senate, there are currently 258 Democrats in Congress.
And 224 of them are fascist collaborators.
Dems just making sure the 2 party system dies forever.
Or maybe more accurately, the illusion of a two-party system.
When I said I didn’t want a 2 party system, this isn’t what I meant!