I mean, if you think all of us are Trumpers, then sure?
Clown Population
Clown Population. The clowns inside the White House are only a small fraction of a total society of mock for mock, reactionary mocking, clowns. The entire nation is a "basket case of clowning around" on social machines / HDTV media machines / mockery.
People like to play a game of psychological denial and say ONLY MAGA is the clowns, only the White House is the clowns. It's the entire population of Untied States of America.
I mean, if you think all of us are Trumpers, then sure?
Why would I think something so shallow and superficial like your 12-word Twitter-length Bluesky-length message reply?
I've expressed what I think in hundreds of pages of discussion here on Lemmy, but you want to reply with ideas that imply people are "Trumpers", without even defining what that means.
I think it is people with accounts like "Joke Diety" identities (with no real name or identity) who find the USA amusing and funny as the Kremlin simulacra patterns are played out across all social media platforms since March 2013 and nobody resists or tries to counter it and thinks it is all hilarious. [email protected]
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"Now I would expect that to be a socialist realist film. No, no, it’s a sitcom. They have got two friends that are stupid and ugly. They dress funny. Their life is shit, if you will pardon the expression, and this is a comedy. Because all the troubles that such a life involve are just reduced to banality, just the common rubble of little one line joke, you follow me? It’s made banal by it. It’s banalised that way." - Rick Roderick, Duke University, 1993
Let me introduce you to my new favorite thing, it's called "blatantly not reading text walls from cunts like you and instead just telling them to shut the fuck up."
It brings me a lot of joy.
Now shut the fuck up.
Let me introduce you to my new favorite thing, it’s called “blatantly not reading text walls from cunts like you and instead just telling them to shut the fuck up.” It brings me a lot of joy. Now shut the fuck up.
Egomania, how you get-off and have joy over ordering other people to shut up. Donald Trump and Elon Musk are two great examples of this in April 2025 in how they use social media machines and HDTV networks to tell people they disagree with to shut up.
not reading text walls
I suspect your literacy behaviors are not to engage "walls of text" like this, either: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/85171-one-of-the-saddest-lessons-of-history-is-this-if
STFU
STFU bitch
This is Lemmy 2025. Machines make people go into hate-filled egomania like Elon Musk and Donald Trump on their Apple iPhone.
You clearly need to get offline and go interact with someone IRL.
You clearly need to get offline and go interact with someone IRL.
Why? Should I go interact with Donald Trump at the White House? Go interact with Elon Musk?
What exact part of the Internet do you think is not "real life"? is it because you think language, English words, don't matter and you just think running away from ideas and thoughts in your mind somehow changes things?
In Germany in 1935, they didn't have "online Internet" and they were bad, evil, and had serious morality problems. That was in their brains, in their minds, in their thinking. Why do you somehow think that going offline would address what is happening in the United States of America in April 2025?
People here on Lemmy seem really ignorant with ideas that are simplistic and thoughtless.
The problems are here on the Internet, people are attracted to bad things. The Internet is wrecking the real world with terrible ideas and bad values being educated. People can't even seem to locate good ideas and concepts. And the "real life" is Donald Trump and Elon Musk values that people adore and are attracted to.
I don't dehumanize people just because I'm using English on a Lemmy computer systems / networks. Maybe you think that isn't "real life". I've traveled the world and the problem is right here: Lemmy, Reddit, Bluesky Fox News audiences - all people who think what they are doing on computer machines and HDTV machines is not "real life" / detachment / compartmentalization in their mind. Everywhere people are staring into Apple iPhone devices and HDTV machines. Before year 2007, that was not happening everywhere all the time. I'm not going to stick my head in the sand and act like the Internet isn't where the problem lies that people believe hate is perfectly fine because they value machines to dehumanize people.
Just look at the garbage that is most popular on every social media platform. There is a crisis in morality of everyday people, it is far worse than year 2012. It has gotten worse and worse every single year. 2017 was terrible, 2024 was nightmarish, and what is going on in year 2025 with people's attraction to hate and machines to wreck humanism is out of control. We will be LUCKY to rescue the USA from the nightmare that Twitter, Facebook, Reddit have unleashed since year 2013.
AP released survey data today. ~40% of Americans support Trump's handling of the economy and trade. ~50% support his immigration policy which includes direct violation of free speech protections, one of America's founding principles.
OP has a point.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-poll-immigration-tariffs-trade-b7a430909606d6b8b27cfbc5049a32b4
Right now, the entire nation either supports Trump's actions or are allowing him to proceed. It's not a good look. Global trust in America as a tried and true partner (and even occasionally a force for good) is crumbling with each passing day.
I know what will help! I'll sow even MOAR division! Yes! People haven't been divided enough by the billionaires and media owners on corpo social media, so I'm gonna bring division to the fediverse!
I know what will help! I’ll sow even MOAR division! Yes! People haven’t been divided enough by the billionaires and media owners on corpo social media, so I’m gonna bring division to the fediverse!
It sounds to me like you think this (the White House being "owned" by Putin) is all hilarious and funny. That surreal comedy and absurd Twitter-speak on social media machines is all LOL and hilarious for you to consume and react-comment to. At least that's my initial take on how you (your electric media message) are treating extremely serious Russian information warfare against NATO and especially the United States of America. You can take people off of Twitter, but you can't get them to stop the Tweet-style mockery and sarcasm to extremely important and serious matters.
Your reply serves to banalize that USA is attacking Canada and doing other absurd and hyper-real surreal comedy actions in service to the Kremlin.
“In the twenty-first century the techniques of the political technologists have become centralized and systematized, coordinated out of the office of the presidential administration, where Surkov would sit behind a desk on which were phones bearing the names of all the “independent” party leaders, calling and directing them at any moment, day or night. The brilliance of this new type of authoritarianism is that instead of simply oppressing opposition, as had been the case with twentieth-century strains, it climbs inside all ideologies and movements, exploiting and rendering them absurd. One moment Surkov would fund civic forums and human rights NGOs, the next he would quietly support nationalist movements that accuse the NGOs of being tools of the West. With a flourish he sponsored lavish arts festivals for the most provocative modern artists in Moscow, then supported Orthodox fundamentalists, dressed all in black and carrying crosses, who in turn attacked the modern art exhibitions. The Kremlin’s idea is to own all forms of political discourse, to not let any independent movements develop outside of its walls. Its Moscow can feel like an oligarchy in the morning and a democracy in the afternoon, a monarchy for dinner and a totalitarian state by bedtime.” ― Peter Pomerantsev, Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia, year 2014
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"People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you." - Banksy
It sounds to me like you're looking for conflict. Your language is very accusatory. And honestly, it really doesn't seem justified.
It sounds to me like you’re looking for conflict.
I a LIVING in the United States of America. I am LIVING in conflict. People are in denial.
Yes. I know. I live here, too. You know what fucks with my head? I've seen posts here on Lemmy outlining the specifics of how Trump/Musk actually stole the election. And you know what? If we've figured it out, then we're not the only ones. But nobody in a position of power and authority did anything. They knew; and they let him do it.
But anyway, I merely want to suggest that you're current tactics are more likely to alienate people. If you wish to get people to open their eyes, there might be better ways?
But I am just another idiot doom scrolling; what do I know, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I’ve seen posts here on Lemmy outlining the specifics of how Trump/Musk actually stole the election. And you know what? If we’ve figured it out, then we’re not the only ones. But nobody in a position of power and authority did anything. They knew; and they let him do it.
I don't believe they manipulated votes. since 1999 I've lived in an RV as my home office, I've traveled and lived in 25 cities.
This is what USA has become since the introduction of the Apple iPhone in year 2007. Since all the streaming platforms and Elon Musk is a perfect example with the purchase of Twitter.
People are becoming so in love with technology and machines that they are dehumanizing people. That's the story of America.
This isn't a stolen election, people actually are attracted to a 78 year old man who has an Apple iPhone addiction and consumes Russian mental manipulation. Donald Trump does not live in objective scientific reality. He lives in Rupert Murdoch's Fox News HDTV and memes he consumes off the Internet. And all that matters to most people is that decoration on a meme makes an idea sound good. That a pretty picture along with one or two sentences of wors made almost any idea attractive.
People in the USA have become so meme addled since year 2015, they are attracted to the stereotype of a loud fat male American that the rest of the world thinks is "bad taste" and ignorant. The problem is morality comprehension, people are attracted to bad things. As long as they can keep consuming Fox News, Elon Musk antics, Reality TV, Joe Rogan, etc. They are putting into their minds more and more junk and Donald Trump attracts people.
The problem is "brain rot" of an entire society. Not "stolen elections". There are far better people out of 300 million that could be President, but people are attracted to the shit-talk and insults. The problem is: the people. The population.
Your read is way way way fucking off base. Might be my fault, I thought I was clear but I suppose I understand how one might not think so.
I do not find anything about this administration or their actions to be funny or amusing. I find the people and policies that makeup MAGA to be abhorrent. To be honest, I think you and I can probably agree politically on a lot of topics.
What I was commenting on, through sarcasm (my bad for not including the /s I guess), was your sweeping generalization. Those only serve to divide, further pushing members of the working class to splinter off into smaller groups to be more easily exploited and controlled by the ownership class.
Maybe its hyperbole and I missed it? Maybe not, perhaps you truly believe everyone in the US deserves, wanted, and supports what our government is doing. Perhaps you think we aren't doing enough to resist? I can agree to that, all the protests I've been to have been smaller than I had hoped. I'm also getting in touch with other orgs in my area to get more started, hopefully we can get something happening.
Idk what to tell you. Your post came off as very crass to me, and I responded with heavy sarcasm.
What I was commenting on, through sarcasm (my bad for not including the /s I guess), was your sweeping generalization
Perhaps you suffer from a media literacy problem of light-speed social machines. I suggest you study over on [email protected] ...
You react-comment instead of try to understand someone. I also suggest [email protected] - it is a MASSIVE crisis all across the World Wide Web in year 2025 that people react-comment and don't seek understanding. James Joyce, Irish Writer, was dealing with the same crisis of Dublin life over 100 years ago. The metaphor of the "Tower of Babel" and how humans get in conflicts over language and jumping to conclusions and at each other's throat.
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"Finnegans Wake is the greatest guidebook to media study ever fashioned by man." - Marshall McLuhan, Newsweek Magazine, p.56, February 28, 1966
Interesting suggestion, I'll have to check it out when I get some time.
So if my post was a "react-comment," the implication being my lacking of media literacy has caused me to misunderstand you, can you at least do me the favor of clarifying your meaning? I asked some questions, answering those might help.
I'm trying to discuss this in good faith with you, but I truly do not think that's being reciprocated.
I’m trying to discuss this in good faith with you, but I truly do not think that’s being reciprocated.
That's entirely my point. You may notice that I frequently cite books, magazines, professionally edited writings from professors, teachers, etc. I suggest you escape your fixation on my personal language and demonstrate some comprehension of the "Forest for Trees" topics being discussed using someone's words entirely not your own or mine. As I'm not here for pissing contest of [email protected] social machine comment section conflicts.
"I truly do not think that’s being reciprocated" <<< I witness that. Community description of this Lemmy community: "Clown Population. The clowns inside the White House are only a small fraction of a total society of mock for mock, reactionary mocking, clowns. The entire nation is a “basket case of clowning around” on social machines / HDTV media machines / mockery. People like to play a game of psychological denial and say ONLY MAGA is the clowns, only the White House is the clowns. It’s the entire population of Untied States of America."
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“For in the end, he was trying to tell us what afflicted the people in 'Brave New World' was not that they were laughing instead of thinking, but that they did not know what they were laughing about and why they had stopped thinking.” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985
You've sited a single article and an anemic forum. I'm here to discuss things with other people, I don't have a fixation on your or anyone's personal language. Suggesting otherwise is absurd.
Suggesting otherwise is absurd.
Sounds like you are under the influence of Kremlin simulacras. Seeing things as absurd and surreal via media machines.
You’ve sited a single article and an anemic forum.
What does "anemic forum" mean? Sounds like diss-talk, shit-tallk against something?
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“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, 1995 ... /\ //\ /\ ... "Stand Up For the BIG GUY", "Stand up for Elon Musk", "Stand up for Putin and Russia", "Stand up for the Powerful", "Stand up for Donald Trump".Absent is: "stand up for the Little Guy", the rural Americans who have had their mind fucked by Russia, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, etc. Stand up for cult deprogramming of your fellow "small guy" is sure popular on social machine systems in 2024 and year 2025!
So you're just taking the piss. Got it. Thanks for wasting my time.
So you’re just taking the piss. Got it. Thanks for wasting my time.
Not at all. Your replies all seem to be attacks against me. I'm entirely serious. People who consume clown content / entertainment all day every day ("memes") off social media often have a very hard time being able to tell when someone (or even when media content itself) is being serious and raising alarms about information warfare from the Kremlin. I witness this frequently.
My name is Stephen Alfred Gutknecht, I grew up in Fort Wayne, Indiana - what's your background?
I've been fighting the Russians on the Internet full time since summer of 2015. The USA has entirely lost the Hybrid War against Putin. [email protected] - and so many everyday social media users have "lost their hearts and minds" to anti-reality.
So you’re just taking the piss.
Is that what you are doing to me? are you just here for one-line insults that sound like Elon Musk on X media platform? I'm here to try and RESCUE people in NATO / USA from all the damage done since 2013 by the "Internet Research Agency". This isn't about entertaining people with "taking the piss" bullshit.
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“Social media, that little narcissism machine, the easiest way we have ever had to place ourselves on a pedestal of vanity, also is the mechanism that most efficiently breaks you up.” ― Peter Pomerantsev, This Is Not Propaganda: Adventures in the War Against Reality, 2019
My first comment was absolutely an attack at the content of your post and the generalization made (specifically the image description).
I don't give a flying fuck about your personal identity. Literally couldn't care less who you are, your name, your age - any personal details about you are completely irrelevant at this point in time.
One-line insults? Friend, you've suggested I had media literacy issues and vaguely malignant fixations in multiple comments. Is that not insulting?
I made a single comment that could, by the most generous of measures, be considered insulting because of how sarcastic it was. I used clinical language purposefully in an attempt to avoid anything that could be considered insulting. Hence anemic, in the context, meaning the forum you linked was rather small or inactive.
I'm not going to reveal any PII to you or anyone else here for any reasons. I want to discuss ideas and explore their merit, personal information is irrelevant.
My first comment was absolutely an attack
Hate is bad. You probably need morality education, it is a very very common problem across the world. People on machines (computer hardware) can become really dehumanization to other people. Donald Trump and Elon Musk on their Apple iPhone can really spew hate against humanism and people.
Subject of Lemmy posting this comment is in context with: "Clown Population" hates Canada because Twitter King shit-bird tweeted to
Hence anemic, in the context, meaning the forum you linked was rather small or inactive.
So you are only interested in "Big Media", like "The Mainstream Media" of Elon Musk or Donald Trump? interesting that you dismiss things based on them being small. "Stand up for the Big Guy", huh? Very popular in population these days, year 2024 and year 2025.
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“Hitlerism was a mass flight to dogma, to the barbaric dogma that had not been expelled with the Romans, the dogma of the tribe, the dogma that gave every man importance only in so far as the tribe was important and he was a member of the tribe.” ― Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, published 1955
Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day ☺️
Thanks for the discussion. Have a good day ☺️
Same to you, have a great week.
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“I think that people with autism are born outside the regime of civilization. Sure, this is just my own made-up theory, but I think that, as a result of all the killings in the world and the selfish planet-wrecking that humanity has committed, a deep sense of crisis exists. Autism has somehow arisen out of this. Although people with autism look like other people physically, we are in fact very different in many ways. We are more like travelers from the distant, distant past. And if, by our being here, we could help the people of the world remember what truly matters for the Earth, that would give us a quiet pleasure.” ― Naoki Higashida, The Reason I Jump: the Inner Voice of a Thirteen-Year-Old Boy with Autism
I want to clarify that I was not being facetious with you, I truly wish you have a good day. I'd also love to discuss these topics with you further, but I think there's a breakdown in our communication styles that would unfortunately make doing so fruitless or unenjoyable for either/both of us. I want to understand your message, it's just not happening like this.
I do appreciate some of those links though, some good stuff in them. I also appreciate many of your arguments, even if I might not understand their relevance to our discussion.
Take care.
Your original post absolutely made sense and you're being way too patient with what I can only assume is a bot designed to destroy constructive conversation.
Division of humans in general leads to conflict. Your point is speak out when someone attempts to do this unfairly i.e. "ALL Americans are bad" is a terrible statement.
I mean I kept engaging purely out of curiosity and intrigue. I still haven't figured out if it's a bot or some weird social experiment, possibly both? I'm nuerodivergent myself, so I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.
I want to understand your message, it’s just not happening like this.
People have such trouble with English language on social media, I can give you professionally edited and written authors so you understand what I'm saying:
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Do You Speak Fox? https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/09/fox-news-trump-language-stelter-hoax/616309/
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5,000 patterns of anti-reality to attack all people on the Internet: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/24/a-trumprussia-confession-in-plain-sight/
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Everyone has been bamboozled by the Kremlin / Russia: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/russia-putin-revolutionizing-information-warfare/379880/
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All this was planned by billionaires in year 2013: https://lemmy.world/post/27627662 (link of articles)
I do appreciate some of those links though, some good stuff in them. Take care.
Yha, that's why I cite so many other authors. I witness egomania on Lemmy, Bluesky, Reddit, Twitter (X) / Elon Musk platform / YouTube / Instagram / TikTok / Mastodon / etc - people get all worked up and angry over people with other skin colors, other nation flags, other languages, other styles and fashions, other genders (especially transgender). Egomania is raging on the World Wide Web in year 2024 and year 2025, it is out of control! Machine media systems have really wrecked humanity.
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The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists. Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it - January 2021