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Summary

Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I'll take 7 hour workdays in summer instead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I fucking hate it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

it never actually served a practical purpose. It was argued about then, too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But wouldn't it be neat if midnight was att 00:00 and mid day was 12:00?

Also, you don't get more daylight by moving the clock. You get more clock.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Time of day is a human invention. We can assign the date lines wherever we like.

Like Japan was nuts. Dark at 3pm in winter. Light at 3am in summer. They'd benefit by shifting that shit two hours forward for sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. The angle of the sun is not a human invention. Trying to invent something from scratch based on that, I would definitely mark one time as "the darkest" and another "the lightest".

I agree that hours, and therefore date lines and time zones are completely arbitrary though.

If we didn't have hours we'd still need a way to group times by geographic or political regions; my example above still needs to handle the "lightest where?" question.

I think my conclusion is that organizing people and societies is arbitrary by nature.

It would be neater though to try to make midnight and mid day the basis for which we measure time. Stepping off of that makes it even more arbitrary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

We're not disagreeing then. I'm just saying some date lines aren't in the right place in general, but what really matters most? What are our priorities? I don't think most light and most dark is better, even if it were possible to get every time zone just right.

I feel like having a life, and kids being able to play for longer after school without it being dark throughout the summer is pretty awesome.

It's that or have school and work finish earlier. I'm all for that, lol.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

A) 1 hour

B) 2 hours

C) 3 hours

D) 2 hours 30 minutes

E) any of the above

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

When I worked an hourly job on the night shift, we would all clock out to change the time and then clock back in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A, B or C.

D would mean that you are in a country with a half hour DST offset, in which case we would miss the option 1 hour and 30 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

D can also happen if the 00:45 job was before the 00:15 job, which thanks to the magic of daylight savings, is also possible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wow, I didn't even think of that option. Savage.

Edit: I'm gonna steal this to annoy my coworkers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

American here, trick question, it's E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn't pay payroll taxes, so his working hours are of no consequence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Right, he worked 1 hours, then 2, then 3, then 2.5, then (1, then 2, ... (...)) without any breaks!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The thing I don't get is why it happens in the summer rather than the winter.

In the UK it gets dark at about 4pm in winter. We basically get no leisure time during daylight but we do get a bit of light during getting ready for work time when we don't really need it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

In the US they claim it's about kids walking to school/the bus stop

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

It's all a plot by Big Torch!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wasn't DST invented in America? How did it even get adopted by the EU?

I'm also seeing that it was formerly used in Russia, India, South America, and some parts of Africa, and it is still used in 4/5ths of Canada and 1/3 of Australia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

New Zealand entomologist George Hudson first proposed modern DST.

Easy to google, bud. Also, the concept is ancient.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That guy was in 1895, which is a hundred years after Ben Franklin suggested it, but neither of them were responsible because it wasn't adopted until the early 20th century in Canada, Germany, Austria, and the USA roughly in that order.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well thanks. TIL.

Having said that, "mentioning" is not inventing.

It would be cool if we had fat burning pizza. There you have it. I mentioned it first, so I invented it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Not your fault that the Internet is full of casual misinformation. None of us are immune from that.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I would have never known if it wasn't because a coworker told me or because of articles like these. My cat wakes me up at 7- 7:30 and he did that this morning too, so I was very surprised that I slept only 7 hours instead of 8 (before I knew). But the funnits part is that my cat followed DST haha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Your cat must be in on the conspiracy. Perhaps even part of the deep state.

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