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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So Hollywood copyright lawyers will target illegal subscription services rather than individual downloaders? Fine by me.

I can understand paying for a legal streaming service where at least a tiny percentage of profits goes into producing new material. I pirate out of convenience and availability, because movies and series aren't released immediately in my region.

Paying somebody for streaming film and TV shows that they have no hand in producing, and thus not supporting new productions — same as I can download for free myself? — that makes no sense to me.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Oh no…

Anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Vote with your wallet, they told us.

Then they got massively butthurt when we voted with our wallets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Oh no. Poor Hollywood. Darn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

"your failed business model is not my problem"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

sparking concerns on Wall Street that the services will never be as profitable as cable once was

Obligatory fuck Wall Street

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yeah this was the entire reason streaming was successful. It was cheaper than cable. Did they think more money would appear from nothing?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

All my homies hate wall street

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I've been doing this for free.

Meme: You guys are getting paid?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So what they're saying is they could get all that extra revenue if they lower their price and just undercut the competition?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Piracy is a service problem

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but good service is a profit problem!

/s

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't use these services, but after learning a bit about them I have to say I'd rather pay an honest thief than one who lies about ownership ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't use these services either, but my understanding is that some of these thiefs seem to not even have a profit model. One prominent streamer who I won't name, "FZ", as the kids call it, they don't require registration and are allowing those who use ad-blockers to access the site.

I don't understand why Hollywood is even going after these guys. Just wait for their lack of monetization sweeps them under.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

That FZ fella sounds like he's got a nonprofit I could donate to.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Can someone list those piracy subscription services so we can avoid them as responsible citizens?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

IPTorrents is even worse at iptorrents.com for only $10/mo

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You should definitely avoid XtremeHD IPTV (http://xtremehdiptv.org/). For $15 a month, it's way too cheap to offer all the live TV, movies, and series that it does. The article specifically mentions low pricing as a red flag, and I can definitely say that compared to what you'd normally pay for every live channel (including the premium ones and pay per view), series, and any just about any movie you can think of, this is most definitely a service that you should steer clear of.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Oh my God, that's disgusting! Illegal streaming services online? Where? Where did they post those?

thats-disgusting-where

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Y'all fucked up by not leaving everything on Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Subscriber fees? Who's paying for pirated content?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people are. Real Debrid is the shit! It's about $2.80 per month for the ability to stream pretty much everything. But ads? Nah, man. There are ads on the torrent sites, but none on streaming. Pirates are pretty ad-adverse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Huh, never heard of that, it sounds pretty cool since it covers not just streaming movies, but downloads of games as well. I can definitely see the appeal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Check out Stremio+Real-Debrid+Torrentio. It's honestly better than any paid subscription you can get from the studios. Install it on something like a Chromecast 4k, or a Shield TV device, hook it up to your home entertainment system, and you've got yourself a bonafide real solution.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just stopped in to say fuck you to the greedy motherfuckers who created a market for sharing massively overpriced content and now cry all over their piles of money cause they are BIGGER piles of money.

Which is to say: "Fuck you".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What about the small, local services that are just trying to pay the broadcast production bills and make a little cash to become viable businesses?

Fuck those people too?

Because these piracy services also affect them. These services restream the content taking away revenue from the small streaming services. In many cases we're talking about volumes less than 100. So these restream services pop up, illegally use trademarks and copyrighted materials to advertise, and can reduce volumes enough that they are no longer viable.

Sometimes these things affect regular people trying to make life work too. Not just billionaire assholes who legitimately deserve the criticism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Would you really put the blame on piracy for that when there are conglomerates manipulating the entire market? I'm not doubting they exist, but can you name a small business streaming service that would be affected by pirate services? I have never heard of such a company. I've seen small streaming services utilized by libraries but they are on government contracts and tax funded as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I block ads, so neener-neener. 🤡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Say it louder with me for the people in the back.

Piracy is not stealing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i dunno i heard that you wouldn't steal a car

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Correct. I wouldn’t steal a car. But I would absolutely make a perfect copy of a car for free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The solution is so easy. Make your content available at a reasonable price, make it easy to use, don't restrict it by geography, and let people watch it on any device that can connect to your service.

Piracy is about ease of use (it's getting even easier), and about value. DRM has repeatedly been shown to hurt only the people who try to pay for legitimate access. Not a single time has it prevented me from getting a copy of something if I wanted to, and it's clearly not stopping people from providing those copies or streams.

So stop wasting bathtubs of money on stopping piracy, but maybe take a few less buckets of money from consumers in exchange for your service. As long as you price it such that the cost of being legit can't compete with the ease of use and value from piracy, some folks aren't going to make the choice you want them to.

Some folks won't be able to spend on your service anyway, because they just can't afford it - but they still might buy other merchandise, they can still spread how great your show is to their friends who possibly will subscribe to your service, but regardless you aren't going to get their dollars no matter what you do. So stop trying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I don't want to have five different streaming services that cost twice what cable used to cost, and is way more inconvenient trying to figure out which platform has what. Streaming can get fucked!

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