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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity

And what if someone doesn’t have internet connectivity?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago

no computer for you

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Is this a US thing? I had to install windows 11 in a VM like a month ago and I didn't have to create MS account or use any bypass scripts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

in the latest preview build

i assume you didn't install today's beta release a month ago 😉

EDIT: nevermind, i re-read your comment... it's mandatory in some regions, I know for sure it's mandatory in the US and in Hungary (EU).

One other thing is that if you created the installer with Rufus, that adds some magic optionally that can bypass it. I wonder if that still works with this beta.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Off course, coz they wanna sell user behavior to marketers. This bullshit talks about the improved security are funny. I will never use anything from Microsoft or Google for personal stuff. I have to yet eliminate Apple - in progress.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It is insecure to create one account with username and password during the setup process. The password should always come from your password manager. But you would not have access to your password manager during the installation process.

Please remove this step.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You also would not have access to your password manager when logging into your OS, would you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

While that is true, logging into your OS can also be done via 2FA, namely via a smartcard. It'd offer a similar protection to it, if not better.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Fair point, but good luck convincing them about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

IMO, Windows without a Microsoft account misses out on the least features, when compared to macOS without an Apple ID, iOS without an Apple ID, or Android without a Google accout. Sad that Microsoft keeps making it more and more difficult to bypass logging into a Microsoft accout during installation. But I use Linux anyways (btw)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Android without a Google account is great though

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That is nice, but I need the Google Play Services for push notifications on the messaging app that everyone in my country uses. It's sad, I know. If it weren't for that I wouldn't log in to a Google account on my Android phone either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah OK, that's fair. It's really a shame how dependent notifications are on Google. ALl the other things - Mail, Photos, Drive,... - are a lot easier to replace.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Are people shocked that windows keeps removing things that allow the os to be usable and debloated?

Copilot recording your screen will be a non optional feature before win11 is over.

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