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Trump warned automakers not to raise prices after announcing a 25% tariff on imported vehicles starting April 3, claiming the tariffs would be "great" and benefit U.S. manufacturing.

Industry leaders, including GM, Ford, and Stellantis CEOs, expressed concerns about inevitable price increases, with experts warning tariffs could add thousands to car costs.

Auto suppliers stated that absorbing tariffs is impossible, and dealers fear affordability challenges for consumers.

While the United Auto Workers union support the move as a job creator, trade groups predict higher prices and fewer manufacturing jobs.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If nothing else, I look forward to the history books and a tragicomedy documentary about...everything, really.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

I hope the car makers said ‘thank you’

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

This, again, shows the enormous reaches of stupidity that Trump fills.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (11 children)

He's such an abysmally bad politician. Bungler. He's ruining the country.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

He was put in to sabotage the US both internally and globally. That doesn't require him to be a good politician, just a relentless, brutal wrecker.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Let's do some overly simplistic bad economics just for fun. Let's suppose that the American car companies are not hurt by the tariffs because those only target foreign car companies. Now all the foreign cars are 25% more expensive. This raises the demand for domestic cars. If the domestic car companies are trying to make money, they will jack up their prices 24%. And what are we told? Something about how they have duty to their shareholders? ... Donald is having fun living in his dream world.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

are they even able to produce the parts domestically?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not for a few years at least, if ever. And building this capacity costs money they will want to recoup.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The idea behind tariffs is you take the money earned by taxation on foreign goods and invest it in domestic production.

Except Trump leaves the second part out completely. He should be announcing large subsidies for American auto companies to bring those jobs back to the US but he's not.

He's going to find a way to siphon the money to himself and his magnificent 7 buddies.

Tariff then invest the proceeds into domestic production. Why is he leaving the second part out?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There’s no way for carmakers to absorb tariffs AND increase jobs with the reduced revenue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

They can, they'll just go out of business. Puts them at a huge competitive disadvantage relative to asian and European car makers.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I cannot wait for that fat bastard to die. Plenty of much better, useful, kinder, loved, younger people die every day. Why can't we have some fucking justice?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only problem is if he does before the next US election JD Vance will take over and that could be just as bad

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Im worried that at this point, for all the destruction and permanent damage hes done, that we may just need him to stick around and break more things.

If he kicks off tomorrow, we could have this happen again. It all gets washed under the rug and hes replaced with more subtle powers. It only took 4 years for the majority of the usa to forget the first round of damage he caused, after all.

But then again, if he lasts too long, we risk never recovering.

There is a sick, nihilistic balance to all this now imo. I want a guarantee that we dont slip down this road again. And unfortunately more pain may be the only way to guarantee it for the next few generations.

I feel dirty even saying it. But in my gut, i believe it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I think that's a form of accelerationism, but I am less sceptical of that position than I used to be. Trump has shown what the system is capable of once the mask is stripped off. Many of the horrors of Trump's misrule are matters of degree, not of kind. Under the veneer of gentility, noeliberal capitalism was just as rapacious as it is now, inequality was growing rapidly, and US imperialist interference with other countries, including giving support to genocide, was carried out even without Trump's foul presence.

Is ot worse now? Yes, in every way. But will restoring status quo ante be sufficient to stop the rot? No, which is one explanation for the popular revulsion not only at MAGA, but alos at the mainstream Democratic Party's gormless money-grubbing lip service.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

No.

My fear during the first Trump was that he would be followed by someone who learned his lessons but wasn't an infinite man-child.

That partly happened, his handlers are far more efficient now.

This train ain't got no stops mow.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the sam brownback concept, but even though he was so terrible Kansas switched to a democratic governor they still voted Republican federally. So it's not like the real maga people will ever be contrite, they'll just blame people who hindered trump no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah i think we will soon be far along enough that my personal feelings about this, in comparison to a random unpopular kansas govenor, are irrelevant and not a fair comparison. Its hardly a fair comparison right now.

I had to look up brownback tbh.

The "sam brownback concept" isnt a thing. But there are real examples of the yoyo slinging back hard enough to hit someone in the face and make them reconsider letting out the string again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was a case where they really let him put all the conservative tax policies in place and do everything he wanted and it went terribly. Rachel Maddow covered it pretty thoroughly.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So America is great again right? Right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's so great right now, and it's only becoming even more great. It's incredible how great it is.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't worry guys, he "saved them" by eliminating subsidies for EVs. That fad is clearly going away, and by gutting the American auto industry's ability to grow their EV market share, we'll clearly be poised for global dominance. Obviously the rest of the world LOVES smog and HATES silent/emissions free vehicles and will FLOCK to ICE cars that are priced the same as Chinese EVs.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The silent part is a bit of an issue though. For safety reasons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you going to force bicycle riders to also put playing cards in their spokes so we can hear them too? Will pedestrians be forced to sing while in public? Or will people instead learn to actually look? Anyway, even a silent car emits lots of tyre noise, and every EV I've run across also makes some sci-fi-like noise whenever the motor is running.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

From outside the main thing you hear from a car is the noise it makes through rolling. You still hear that with EV. The silent part is when you're sitting inside since good cars are dampening the roll (and wind) noise

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's an issue at low speeds where tyre noise is nowhere as loud. Also in a city it's fighting against the other ambient noises that are quite loud.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trivially solvable with regulation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trivially solvable by looking, unless we are going to regulate millions of vehicles and add to noise pollution for the hypothetical sake of a few visually-impaired people.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just need to find good solutions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Literally just require a noisemaker

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