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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America..."

I mean, you can stop right there. The rest is all fucked up too, but that shit's weird. How can one owe allegiance to a flag, of all things?

And, it's not "as representing the Republic for which it stands", it's "and to the Republic for which it stands". The flag is a separate thing, the second clause is about allegiance to the republic, but the first part is just about the fucking flag.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

the pledge of allegiance is brainwashing at NK levels.

I never liked doing it. Got in trouble a few times for not doing it, though that didn't matter to me since I got in trouble a lot when I was in school. Those dipshits (the counselor) thought I had "Gender Identity Disorder" and was reacting because of "distress" (Not because I wouldn't say the pledge, I did many worse things than that), they also used the fact that I also had long hair and sometimes would wear a skirt as evidence I had GID. What fun people I spent my childhood with sarcasm I'm glad my parents are and were nice people otherwise I might not be here today.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I sat down because I was lazy.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

You're welcome

[–] 257m@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I have never seen a kid sit down for O Canada unless they are in a wheelchair. Of course getting sent to the principle's is not worth it but I would admire a kid who had the balls to do it.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

There was always one kid that sat down during the pledge in my class. None of us thought he was annoying or weird. I admired him.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My kids refused to do it and I supported them. We started sending them to online school after that. The pledge was thought up and implemented by White Christian nationalists to commemorate 400 years since Columbus "discovered" America. Prior to World War 2 students didn't put their hands over their heart, they did the Bellamy salute AKA the Nazi salute. Choral repetition and responses are used to brainwash people.

[–] Dohnuthut@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My son is in second grade and ha, chosen to not to say the pledge of allegiance (his own decision because we talk about how the country won't take care of its people). He says he teachers never force him, but subs always do claiming we're the greatest country in the world.

[–] AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I stopped in third grade. I walked to school so had to hang out till the busses were gone and I asked my teacher after school one day why I had to say it. She said I didn't have to if I didn't want too but that I should stand. It made sense to me . Never said it again.

I asked the same teacher why she said Columbus "discovered Smerica" when there were already people here. She could not answer that one and I don't think the thought ever crossed her mind. I knew school was all bullshit after that and didn't really participate much after that

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

I don't think kids should even stand for it. Our loyalty should be to the people, to our communities, to the scientific pursuit of truth, to the health of the planet, and to defending the unalienable god given right of dignity for all people.

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This shit has always been creepy. Always. Greetings from Germany o/

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Internet Germans convinced me to sit down for it in high school. And yeah its such cult shit

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed

"Our country is really the best, all the other countries suck... God bless Johnson & Johnson...."

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Brought to you by McDonald's, on behalf of Nike.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

True, but they start you off doing it at the age of 4 or 5 so it is completely normalized before our brains are developed enough to question it

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I moved to the US as a kid, and this shit gave me massive cult vibes from the start. I refused to participate.

I was suuuper popular in middle school...

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Good choice with the forward slash. Good choice.

[–] wandrinstar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] suite403@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Same. But I didn't do it because of a different indoctrination, not because I understood anything special.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Im guessing that's a lot of us here lol

[–] drool@lemmy.catsp.it 7 points 1 week ago

Lmao saaaame

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Less of the annoying kid more of an annoying teacher, admin, and staff. Like peer pressure and desire to follow along made me do it but the teacher and the staff couldn't explain why we should and that made me question it and leading me to consider the kid right

[–] renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Monzcarro@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm from the UK but I have my own version of this.

I went to a Church of England school. When I was about 8, we had this super religious teacher start. She was Methodist so made us change the words of the lord's prayer to her version. I loudly and defiantly said the old one every time.

It wasn't long after, that I stopped saying prayers altogether, making sure to stare ahead with lips tight and hands unclasped, so nobody could mistake me as being pious!

I probably would have been that annoying kid had just been schooled in the USA.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pious - adjective

Strongly believing in religion and living in a way that shows this belief: She is a pious follower of the faith, never missing her prayers


For anyone else who has never in their life encountered this word, lol.

[–] Monzcarro@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Thanks for adding this!

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