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Dude... Totally insane. I was saying for years this Gestapo shit was going on and was only getting worse. Absolutely horrifying to see this happening in my country after all the patriotic bullshit they blew up our asses about how great the United States was as a kid. I'm ashamed to be an American.
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“We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says
Fam I'd rather be kidnapped by a rando than the police. Relaxing is the last thing I would be doing while getting swarmed by pigs
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Gestapo shit.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters. Congratulations!
You're right we should have voted for Hindenburg, that'd prevent this. You can't vote your way out of fascism friend, you must fight through strikes, protests, and armed revolt or flee.
I'm wondering if these comments are starting to hurt at this point. Yeah I'm pissed at non voters too, in protest or otherwise. Is the continued ostracizing beneficial in any way though? Shouldn't we be trying to talk with them on a way to move forward? If we continue to divide up the left into too many bite sized chunks we'll never be able to properly organize at the scale needed in the US
the vote blue, no matter who crowd is just as reactionary as maga is and just like maga they have no interest in coalition building, only in revenge.
You mean like the protest voters and non voters were before the election when everyone with a brain tried to warn them that this was going to happen?
Becasue I don’t recall a whole lot of coalition building there. Just reactionary outrage.
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This is telling people to vote. (for Dems.) Because this is what happens when you vote otherwise.
Yeah, you're not helping by saying shit like this.
And this is coming from someone who is hated by many on this site for calling out the protest voters/non-voters.
We need to vote against fascism when it's on the ballot, and this last election it was and in this case, the Democrats were the only choice. But let's not pretend that they're a good party.
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Every day my judgement that the US is already lost gets stronger. What a fucking shit show. i still got some colleagues who believe that the democracy is the US is not lost. Hard not to laugh in their faces.
Fuckin joke of a country, armed to the teeth for absolutely nothing besides shooting up schools and killing minorities.
I really should start carrying a gun to protect myself.
You should look up how the "Kristallnacht" came to be.
Now this is what we should be out protesting in mass, among other things. Kidnapping people in broad daylight in unmarked uniforms, with masks on? That's not police, that's a bunch of Brownshirt thugs.
Yeah and this just sets a precedent for other people/groups... Wanna kidnap someone? Wear all black cover your faces and say you're the police...
My guess is they're hired security thugs and not actually ICE agents, hence why they're not showing a badge or uniform.
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How are such agents alive? They are masked and ambush an innocent woman.
Where is the good guy with a gun?
Massachusetts does not have a stand your ground law. It would be illegal for anyone else to step in with a firearm. She is also not able to acquire a firearm under Massachusetts law.
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You're suggesting a bystander pull a gun on ICE agents? How does that possibly go well for anyone?
Anyone can claim they are ICE and take a woman off the street. There's a reason why they need to legally identify themselves.
Are they ICE agents?
There's a reason we, in the past, set up things like badges and uniforms to identify agents of the civil authority. It's so we know there is at least the pretense that the rights of the person being arrested will be respected and that they will go to a location where they can be checked on and communicate with friends/family and receive legal assistance for the charges brought against them.
Masked men with guns shouting "I'm definitely police" and bagging a woman is not that.
Their bosses pretending this is good enough is, at the very very very least, endangering federal agents unnecessarily. To say nothing of the rights of the people they're disappearing without the pretense of arresting them.
Probably ICE. You can see them pull out those necklace badges from under their hoodies in the video.
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Why not read the response I gave Admiral Patrick that had a somewhat similar response?
People carry a gun to protect themselves and their family. Not necessarily random strangers. In fact, most state CCW classes tell you to stay away from situations where you might have to use your gun to help others.
The good guy with the gun is either a cop, or a concealed carrier in the middle of the situation. In this case, cops were the bad guys.
It's OK you didn't get it.
Good guy with a gun is a myth, and is never there.
Still a bunch of masked men terrorizing a woman, should be an obvious target in the worlds most heavily armed country.
But even in this situation the good guy with a gun is absent, and the guns don't help against government overreach, which is the ~~purpose of~~ excuse for the 2nd amendment.
Yup... the proper response to this situation as a bystander is to film and expose the situation. Even in a "stand your ground" state, it's not justified to start shooting. (Not legal advice - ALWAYS know the local laws)
No the response is to fucking rise the fuck up. Because we're next. They starting with foreigners but they come for us too. When they do Yes shoot fucking Ice agents. Especially masked men and women. Because thats fascism.
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic (the internet has ruined my sarcasm detector), but the "good guy with a gun" is just a mythological figure invented by the gun lobby.
I'm not saying good people don't pack heat, just that the "good guy with a gun" is about as real as the Easter Bunny.
Eh, I'd say about as real an ethical landlord. They do exist, but they're never around when you need them.
But there are a handful of cases in recent history where an armed civilian stopped an active shooter. I think it happened with one of the church mass shootings, I want to say Georgia, but that might have been an off duty cop (technically a civilian).
The comment you responded to works either way.
It points out that the good guy with a gun is never actually there when needed, because its a fantasy character.
While at the same time, it actually wonders why not a single person opened shots at these masked men, in the most heavily armed country in the world.
Spot on. 👍
It was part sarcasm, exactly that the good guy with a gun is myth, and it's a myth that guns help defend against government overreach.
But there is also the fact that there is a LOT of gun crime in USA, and it is absolutely a risk IMO that these people could get shot by a vigilante.
But as you say, the good guys don't pack heat, so those that do are probably perfectly OK with this.
Ah, makes sense. I live in a red state, so I have to hear the "good guy with a gun" fallacy pretty much on the daily.
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