That means you put it outside of the 70% who have to match.
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I don't usually complain about how people convey what they want, but this one often annoys me a bit - because it's a matter of clarity.
Some might say "well, there's uncertainty on the min/max", but then the higher/lower boundary of the uncertainty doesn't mean anything. That's the case here - it's effectively "minimum 5 years experience", unless you say what would require more experience.
The higher bound is an indication of maximum salary. It's saying "we need at least 5 years experience, but if you have 30, we're paying you like you have 5."
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Yeah it's grammatically incorrect but don't we know what they mean? They would settle for 5 years experience if they had to, but 10 years is very much preferred and if they felt they could require 10 they would.
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I once had a colleague update a shitty webapp we had written to add a message saying "pages loading may take up to a minute or more"
It also infuriates me if the use 'improving the optimum' or claim something is optimal without the proof, for example 'this is the optimal configuration of a production system' after a comparison of 2–3 different variants.
That or when the range is so huge as to be meaningless - a $25k-150k range is completely useless.
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Because there are uncertainties regarding the minima and maxima? It's pretty obvious.
This comment is very dumb and frankly quite rude. The company is defining the requirements for the application themselves - so they have no reason to reflect scientific uncertainty or whatever you're getting at in their ad.
If a candidate is smart, I'm willing to accept less experience. If a candidate is less smart, I want them to have more experience. There is uncertainty in the minimum experience I'm willing to accept.
While there are certainly cases where this annoys me (as another poster pointed out "up to 60% or more!"), this is not one of them as it could have an explanation.
For the scenerio you described, the minimum posted experience should be the bottom of the range. The top of the range could be used internally.
So you accept that there can be a minimum range, but they should just hide it.
The standard way to express that is to have the minimum reqs be 5 and the preferred reqs be 10.
I've seen it enough both ways to disagree with one being the standard.
I think it means that if you have 10 years of experience you are welcome to apply, but they are only willing to pay commensurate to experience up to 10 years.
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“Minimum” in this could refer not to the number of years but to the criteria of eligibility. The sentence might mean “At minimum you have to pass the following eligibility criteria: between 5 and 10 years experience.”
If they then give other criteria that you have to match, that’s nonsense :)
Or I suppose it could mean they’re looking for someone with a minimum of five years, and while they’re not looking for someone with more than 10 years they will consider them. “We want someone with (hard minimum of 5) to (soft maximum of 10) years experience.
Is the job for someone to improve the clarity of their communications by any chance?
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"Up to 50% off or more!"
I, too, am irritated by this.