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Your account seems new @[email protected], sorry you had to deal with this but this is what happens on the tankie instance that is .ml

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Hah, I flagged that dick today because of all of the bullshit that they're posting. Clesr as day Russian propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Interesting, this news sound like propaganda yet they allowed it and removed your comment. Sometimes they act shady as fuck over there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Nothing really shady about it, it's quite obvious, they support Putin and his war against the world. Do they do it for free or because they're payed operatives remains unknown, but does it really matter at this point

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Interesting. I had thought that instance was okay because when things like that happen, they are usually downvoted well into negative numbers. That’s the case in the example you linked to as well.But I never thought about the moderation problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yea that's how most feel, the rest of the Tankie Triad, Hex and Grad, are much more in your face about it.

.ml aims for subtlety through admin and moderator action to avoid wider calls for defederation and also now that Lemmy is catching on to some degree, the main devs are letting the mask fall off on their "flagship" instance

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Russian war minister as world war one was breaking out thought it was going to be fought with sabers and wondered why other armies were teaching their men to fight with guns when they were so ungentlemanly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

This feels like it has to be an urban legend or taken out of context or something. Russia had been involved in heaps of massive wars using guns before WW1. Napoleonic Wars, Crimean War, 1877 Russo-Turkish War, and the Russo-Japanese War all involved shitloads of guns

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

does lemmyMl have more reach beyond their own instance because they are developers? how can we be sure?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago

We are everywhere haha

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'd say, more tolerated. Because they're the devs, the lemmy.ml instance is considered the flagship instance.

Where new features go live first, a number of official support communities are and because it was the first, the perception that they have some of the biggest comms

The rest of the Tankie Triad (Grad and hex) don't have that so that's why they're pretty much widely defederated from, it's a much easier decision.

I say perception, because the comms there are only the "biggest" by subscriber count. If you look at the statistics by monthly active users, it tells a much different story where only a single .ml comm breaks the top 15 comms Lemmy-verse wide

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I meant like capabilities to influence the platform as a whole, like backend stuff, potential censoring past their instance

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If they do something to the source code, I'm sure someone can just fork lemmy and we just use that.

Otherwise everything is hosted on separate instances so no.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Ah, it's possible, but unlikely thanks to its open source nature

It has been suspected though that .ml is running a slightly customized version to help hide their censorship, but I have only read of accounts of it happening to others and no direct evidence

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I just don't understand why a marxist would cape for russia at any point in any form. Russia is MORE capitalist than even america, at least until this past January. Might as well defend pinochet since he also was a unitary executive.

Socialism is when no bread mfs look at russia like "that's pretty socialist!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The types of tankies you find on .ml are not so much Marxist as they are anti-USA (they'll call it anti-imperialist, nevermind the imperialism they're supporting)

That means they'll support everyone that's anti-USA. They'll cheer for al-Qaeda as long as they're shouting "Death to America". And that's only slight hyperbole

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't even think it's slight hyperbole. They literally would in the literal sense of "literally".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I have literally seen people that say that Assad was actually good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Two faces of the same medal. People are brainwashed in taking sides. If you are not right-winged you are left-winged. They realize their government is shit and jump into the one of their enemies. Instead of study and think they conform to a model and feed on its circlejerk rejecting opposite views.

Not everyone on .ml is foolish but their modlog can get really stupid

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the campist brain, Russia is geopolitically opposed to the USA empire, and therefore since USA is the greatest evil, we need to "critically support" their opponents.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Is pro-China sentiment just campist?

I have a sneaking suspicion they think the CCP are actually socialist/communist. And not some sort of authoritarian capitalism. Or “red” capitalism.

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