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The title is err, not correct because the top 2 alternatives Opera and Arc are based on Chromium engine. I have seen tons of people swear by Arc, but I am seriously asking (since as a Linux user I can't use it), how much good can a browser be in this day and age if ultimately it's ad blocking breaks and it will since Manifest v2 will go soon(unless Arc folks have a solution for it)

The rest alternatives are Firefox, Zen (FF fork but honestly Atleast this was something new I learned from this article) and Tor (which is weird since it is not meant for normal web browsing and using it will not only be slow but put additional strain on the nodes, correct me if I am wrong).

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Me using Firefox until Orion comes out:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly I wish Kagi would build their own full Firefox fork and maintain it independently. I already pay for search, I wouldn't mind paying for my browser if it actually respected me!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do any of these sync with the Firefox Android app? Or do they have their own?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Firefox sync works on all Firefox forks (I'm using LibreWolf on Linux and Fennec on Android for example)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Firedragon (a Floorp-Firefox mod) has its own sync server by default. But "Share/Send to" from Android Firefox to PC Firedragon works out of the box.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I may get some hate for this but Safari is superior IMO. Especially with the private relay I get with my iCloud+ plan.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

ZDnet 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Chrome !=Chromium. The tite is correct.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Google could close the Chromium source at any time. There might be promises and provisions that they'll never do that, but if they do, who has the money to sue them? And who, of those, can't be bought?

"So what, people can run with the last good codebase!"

Sure, until there's a critical bug that Google don't publish which then cripples Chromium until the maintainers figure it out, or else Google (deliberately or otherwise) take web standards down an unexpected path requiring massive changes, also making life hard for the fork maintainers.

And don't say "that'll never happen". Need I gesture broadly at the state of the world?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Whatever. Chromium is not Chrome, at the moment, so the title is correct. What may happen in 2,5 or 10 years from now is largely irrelevant at this time.

Nobody is going to ditch their favourite browser (or any other tool) because of the rants of some random netizen/website.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

I’ve really been enjoying Vivaldi. It’s also Chromium-based. It’s easy to customize and it has really good tab management. You can group tabs into workspaces, open split panes, and – this one I really appreciate – you can stack tabs by domain. Added bonus is that the company behind it, Vivaldi Technologies, is Norwegian, which ticks the ‘shop European’ box for me.

As for ad blocking, the shittiness of manifest v3 made me look at options outside the browser rather than rely on extensions. These days I pass all my traffic through adguard, which filters out ads from the request responses. All in all this has been a positive step, because now I can play around with any browser without ever seeing ads.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Gotta say, it’s kind of a bummer to be downvoted for sharing my own experience. Are those ‘disagree’ or ‘doesn’t contribute to discussion’ votes?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'll link an unpopular opinion I posted yesterday: https://lemm.ee/post/59167603

My own comment has been: "Don't you dare to have opinions that don't align with mainstream thinking here".

Here either you praise Mozilla/Firefox/Gecko or you are insulted and treated like a pest. And that's a deterrent for me to even look at Mozilla/Firefox/Gecko. I prefer not to be part of that community.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Don't take it to heart, bro. I saw people downwoting for an honest "thanks". 😄

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

AdGuard (the app, not the extension or the DNS) should do it. I guess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

DNS blocking (such as AdGuard) doesn't work for everything. Ad blocking extensions are the only way to block YouTube ads in your browser as far as I know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AdGuard does more than DNS blocking. It strips ads from the response content.

Haven’t seen a single YT ad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I only know the DNS blocking from them.

ETA: Not sure if their app does more.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I like Vivaldi but all the manifest V3 stuff just pushed me to Librewolf for everything whether it works or not, so maybe I should "thank" Google

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I switched from Firefox to Floorp and haven't looked back. Less bloated, same features, haven't found an extension that isn't compatible yet.

Same with Fennec on Android.

This article is pretty poor overall. Why recommend Arc, a browser that requires a user account to even open a webpage, and which the author himself said will probably be disappearing in the near future as part of their own product strategy?

Lame clickbait aimed at nobody.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you tried Firedragon? Floorp-based but with some eye candy and privacy enhancements. (Linux only at the moment)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly the same. Floorp Fennec ftw

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is interesting as I've not even heard of Floorp and alternatives have been such a hot topic the last month between manifest v3 and firefoxes updated terms fiasco.

Can I ask, what for you had you opt for floorp vs the more commonly mentioned alternatives like Librewolf, Waterfox, etc.?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

I at least switched to Floorp for more customization options and funny name, but back then Floorp also had vertical tabs and side-dock before any other Firefox fork (afaik).

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why did you go with Floorp vs the other FF forks? Just curious.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

For me, librewolf focuses too much on privacy sacrificing features, I personally dont like zen's design. There's others like waterfox but didnt tried them

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