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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 weeks ago (35 children)

This is a good time to switch to Notesnook, which has a OneNote importer.

Why am I about to shill so hard for this particular app? Simple, because after Evernote enshittified over a decade ago, I switched to OneNote as the least terrible alternative, and then spent the next ten years trying to find an actually good, open source notes app.

Call me Ahab because this motherfucker has been my white whale for a not-insignificant portion of my life.

Notesnook, finally, hit everything I wanted;

  • You can self host it (but you don't have to)
  • Self hosters get everything on the paid plan for free
  • It has a web app, a desktop app, and a healthy ecosystem of phone apps, with - very importantly - 1:1 feature parity. Everything you want to do you can do from any of the interfaces and for the most part they're even laid out identically.
  • It has a proper rich text WYSIWYG editor. It does not demand you learn FUCKING MARKDOWN. JESUS H CHRIST I DO NOT WANT TO LEARN A FUCKING SYNTAX TO MAKE NOTES, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
  • But for those who care about that stuff, it is built on markdown, and all your notes can be exported in markdown, so there's no lock in. And you can use markdown in the editor (without even having to switch modes like a lot of other editors).
  • Everything is encrypted by default. Notes can also be individually password protected.
  • You can share copies of notes with optional password protection and self-destruction.
  • It has a really slick UI. Everything works, everything is intuitive, there are tonnes of keyboard shortcuts. I find I actually have an easier time writing long form text content (such as a novella I'm working on) in Notesnook than I did in Word or LibreOffice.
  • It builds a TOC for notes automatically. You can link notes to each other, and links are bidirectional so you can track which notes link to a particular note.
  • You have sorting by both tags, and notebooks. Notebooks are infinitely nestable, and - this is really cool - notes can exist in multiple notebooks simultaneously.
  • It has robust web clipper for Firefox and Chrome.
  • Very robust attachment support.
  • God so much more, I'm having to deliberately stop here.

What it's currently lacking is drawing support. If that's a must have for you, check out Joplin instead (at least for now, I've seen some talk about Notesnook integrating Excalibur for digital canvas, which would be a superb solution).

Anyway, please check out Notesnook. It's excellent, and I like sharing excellent things. https://notesnook.com/downloads/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

real MVP right here.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Ok you win, I'll try it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Not to judge a book by its cover (ironically), but that name…

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Joke is on them, I moved all my notes to Joplin 😎😂

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Until they make a proper upgrade to my surface 10, I will have no other choice but to stay on the windows 10 version.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

clears throat

Surface Linux Kernel. Surface 10 supported.

Some distros of Linux that have SLK rolled in:

Nobara:

  • Based on fedora
  • Made by GloriousEggroll who also is responsible for protonGE a great derivative of the Steam Proton compatibility layer for playing windows games on Linux
  • Development and maintaining it is done by a single dude, so if something happens to him, that's the project done, this is not in the Pros section.

BlissOS:

  • for when you really just want your surface device to be running Android
  • immutable distro, makes it easier to undo fuck ups, and often prevents them happening at all
  • seems fairly mature and robust, I don't know for a fact as I haven't used it

Gentoo Surface:

  • for when you want to put a bit more effort in
  • the instructions here are from building Gentoo locally using and Arch LiveISO
  • FOR WHEN YOU WANT TO PUT MORE EFFORT IN

These were the really easy to find options. There's absolutely going to be more that have SLK rolled in...but that's not actually necessary, as the SLK git has easy to follow instructions on rolling it into whatever distro might interest you. The whole Linux universe is your oyster.

I have a Surface Pro 4, and I run Nobara, works great, better than windows. There are some hardware things that don't 100% work on some surface devices. Here is the Supported device list and Features Matrix. Looks like the SP10 doesn't like to hibernate, and doesn't have working cameras atm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Big thanks for this. Been thinking about what to do with my daughter's Surface Book once Win10 is EOL and it looks like Nobara will be the first and hopefully final stop.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So pleased I dumped Windows and moved to Linux recently.

Everyone should look into dumping "big tech" and move away from Microsoft, Apple and Google. It's great. And the best part of it, no AI in sight.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not true. I can run any AI I want. Emphasis on "I want". ;)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm running Stability Matrix. It's got a maintained package on AUR. It's been.... interesting.

Hooter with Hooters for Hooters:

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Neowin is the web site where their writers can stupidly claim that Qt getting an advertisement module means that KDE will have ads in their apps soon.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220119103026/https://www.neowin.net/news/ads-may-be-coming-to-kde-the-popular-linux-desktop/

Stop linking to them.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can't you reinstall it? Or install an older version? Obligatory fuck Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Looks like I made a good decision deciding to move from onenote to obsidian last month. I like that it is a fancy mark down editor so I can just move my text files some where else if I decide to not use Obsidian in the future. When it comes to onenote functionality of being able to draw or paste where ever I want the excalidraw plugin which is open source has met my needs.

Been nice to move to something that is multi platform.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Obsidian is a fancy markdown editor with metadata, sync, indexing, data querying and views and a lively ecosystem of plugins. It has everything except being open source.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

It would be incredible to have a self hosted web UI but that's a tall ask. Instead I've been using Quartz to generate a static site from hot reloading which seems to cover this end to a degree.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft is working hard to get you to transition to a Linus Distribution. Thank you microsoft for your hard work and dedication.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

People will never switch. I see at my work how colleagues just learn how to accept the endless shit without even reacting to it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I have some niche software for my racecar I can't seem to get to run on Linux and it's the only reason I'm still on Windows. Although now that I've finally got a new desktop, I can dual boot again.

Oh and I run a few games via the Xbox app so that kinda keeps me on there as well.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Every time Netflix raises prices their subscriber numbers jump. There are people out there who pay for Netflix with ads.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Like US politics... 🤮

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I use it all the time

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While OneNote for Windows 10 still has roughly half a year, Microsoft will start nagging users with update prompts much earlier. For starters, in June 2025, Microsoft will slow down the app's sync performance, thus forcing customers to ditch the old app, especially those using OneNote on multiple devices or for real-time collaboration.

Next, in July 2025, banners will make their way to OneNote for Windows 10 to make sure users are aware of the upcoming end of support. Microsoft says these banners "could impact users workflows." You do not say, Microsoft.

Wait. You're gonna throttle them and then wait a month to tell them why you're throttling them? What?

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[–] [email protected] 219 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

This is not to be confused with the application called "OneNote", that's staying.

You can always trust Microsoft to make two version of the same application and to have really bad naming.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I got so sick of their shit. I think there were two Teams and Skype versions too. Wtf is their problem?? I just stick with LibreOffice for everything now, but eyeing OnlyOffice because of their cloud service.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How do I know which one I'm using? Are you talking about the windows store one (tablet one) being the one that's discontinued while the one that's bundled with o365 (desktop version) being continued?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The OneNote Microsoft wanted to discontinue in favor of the Win10 OneNote a few years ago is staying, so they can axe the Win10 OneNote.

From 2018: https://rcpmag.com/articles/2018/04/19/onenote-desktop-app-sunset.aspx

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

And it's a web/Electron app anyways. At least the O365-connected version is.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell, just talking about teams in Teams is confusing enough.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Are you talking about Teams in Teams for Home or Teams for Work and School, and is it Teams or New Teams you mean?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Teams (Classic), actually.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Which is sometimes called Onenote 2016, bundled with Office. I think. Pretty sure there's a third version too.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can always trust Microsoft to make two version of the same application and to have really bad naming.

And to make bad naming worse naming, since they switched Office's name to 365 Copilot, not to be confused with 365 (office premium), Copilot (ChatGPT interface), or Copilot (Office text assistant). Office was a perfectly serviceable name they'd used for decades. It's like Twitter rebranding themselves to a single latter like Y. Why would they throw away branding like that?

People are liable to look for office, not find it, and go "oh, Microsoft doesn't sell Word any more ☹️'

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Their enterprise products as well. Azure is now Entra, all the admin page rebrandings like defender, purview, intune, the URL changes, etc.

Please just stick with a name already!!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Azure is not Entra. AAD became Entra. They did it because AAD was becoming less about Azure and covering more things than directories. So a rebranding made sense.

It's a pretty dumb name, though. It doesn't really mean much when you hear it, and it sounds too similar to other common words.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Two apps, OneNote.

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