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Legal experts skewered Alina Habba's "comedy of bumbling errors" in Trump defamation trial

Former President Donald Trump's appeal of the $83.3 million verdict in the defamation case brought by E. Jean Carroll is unlikely to succeed, legal experts say.

"Let me ruin the suspense for everyone. Trump doesn't have an appeal," Nashville lawyer Brian Manookian argued Friday. "I know the talking heads on TV who have never tried a case or appealed a jury verdict have to mention it. Here's why it isn't going to fly."

A person must "preserve a reversible error at the trial level" in order to have a case with merit on appeal, Manookian explained, ultimately blaming Trump's lack thereof on his legal team in the case.

"This is why you hire competent counsel. You need someone who actually knows the rules of evidence and procedure," he said. "Alina Habba had no clue what was occurring throughout the trial. She not only failed to preserve any remote grounds for appeal, like a moron, she repeatedly and unintentionally waived them over and over."

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 9 months ago (15 children)

Looks like typical DJT operating procedures. Hire incompetence and then blame the system for their incompetence. I used to do high stakes litigation. We would have an attorney on our trial team whose only responsibility was preserving error. I wonder if DJT will sue her for malpractice. That would probably make her extra sad for servicing his tiny mushroom.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It feels like Trump always hires incompetent lawyers so he and his media cronies can cry foul when it inevitably goes south. That's not how the legal system works. I type this while I await jury duty.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

It's because nobody competent will work for him. The few competent people who are soulless enough have already been fired, quit, left unpaid, etc... I wonder if there's a comprehensive list somewhere. It's a dozen-plus, at this point, I think?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This is gold Jerry, freaking gold.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A good lawyer would have reserved ground for an appeal. But she is not a good lawyer. Trump is going to write the check, but he will not see the money come back.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One argument goes that she was counting on her blatant incompetence to be grounds for appeal. Once/if Trump ever finds a competent lawyer willing to represent him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Having a bad lawyer is not grounds for an appeal. You have to prove they committed an act. She was just stupid enough to stipulate to all the evidence. Stupid doesn't work for an appeal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But people here on Lemmy have told me repeatedly that she isn't stupid and that she was creatively doing Trump's bidding! As recently as yesterday!

Do you mean to tell me she is stupid?!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

Well, to be fair, it’s quite possible for her to be both stupid AND doing Trump’s bidding. It’s not like he is firing on all cylinders, the guy brags about being able to pick out a whale from a from a lineup of fruits and vegetables.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"I do think part of the rough week he had was having chosen a counsel who doesn't seem to have any, not just chops, but judgment about how you try a case like this when it's already been established[,]and you may not quibble that your client has sexually assaulted the plaintiff and then lied about it."

Shitheads in Ohio be like, “Imma vote for him!” Because corporate journalism has failed catastrophically.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Stop blaming the media.

When he said he liked soldiers who didn't get captured, the main stream media reported it. When the pussy grabber tape came out the media was all over it. They played the tapes of him talking about perving on the Miss Teen USA contestants.

I saw one of his defenders on The View. One of the panelists kept repeating 'grab the pussy' over and over. The woman who was supporting Trump asked her not to use that offensive language.

The media reported and the MAGoos decided it didn't matter.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Stop absolving the media. They absolutely have some culpability here for treating whackjobs with the same credulity they treat scientists, treating existential threats against democracy as if they're a normal part of the political horse race, and otherwise perpetuating habitual and systemic balance fallacies on a massive scale. The "MAGoos" didn't just go off the deep end on their own; the media helped mislead them straight off it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, we all know what terrible person he is because of this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Trump and his people treat the media the same way surly tweens treat their parents. If the NY Times says that Trump is one of the richest people in the world his people will repeat that claim over and over. If the Times says that Donnie took money from Putin it's FAKE NEWS!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Reminder that Trump could have used the more competent Christopher Kise for this.

I guess pretending to be smart didn't work out so well for Habba this time.

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