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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Let's just rename the EU to "United Earth" like in Star Trek, since Australia is practically in it already on account of being in Eurovision.

That way we don't need to change the initials, just swap them.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

We have already rejected Morocco because of geographical reasons...

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, if Canada can take part in the Eurovision song contest, they might as well join the EU.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I (from yrp) would absolutely love this <3

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.

But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

EU already said this can't work. It said in the rules only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Canada becomes a France province, easy.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

~~European~~ Worldwide Union

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it's some sort of gotcha. It doesn't mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.

The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.

My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)

I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”

Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not about being a "gotcha" - it's about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.

You're right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:

  1. Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.

  2. Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it's "too complex" or "un-Canadian" becomes much harder to maintain.

  3. Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.

The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don't extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.

The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it's a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it's done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 1 week ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why are non-European countries even allowed to participate?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

#28thnever51st

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