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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Looks at UK learning the American way of handling the "undesirables"

Next they will learn to shoot because they got "scared"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Sigh.

We don’t know the context. We literally have just seen a video which police leadership is now knee-jerking to because the first rule of PR is you never stand your ground and dig in. It never works. You admit fault, you move along.

He might have been “moved along” and she might be like a little nazi. It could be exactly what it looks like. In that case, what the fuck?!

But there might have been reports that he was hiding a weapon or doing drugs or stolen something or a myriad of other reasons why the police might need to search him.

And he might have resisted or refused and it might have been unsafe to search him unless he was moved to another destination which he might have refused.

The police have a monopoly on violence. It’s not pleasant but in some situations is required to protect their safety or ours.

And I have no idea so I’m not saying it’s one or the other. I’m just saying that until we know more, we genuinely can’t react to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I don't know how we solve the problem that police officer is an attractive career to "little dictator" type people. The folks we actually want doing the job are not the ones who apply because it doesn't appeal to them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

It's not just the police that get on like this. I was in a and e all night in Belfast over a month ago and there were a couple homeless people in. One guy fell asleep on the chair and then fell onto the floor so the nurses kept checking on him after several hours of the guy going back to sleep on the floor, two security staff came over and started giving him abuse and psychically moving him about so another homeless guy tried to intervene telling them not to manhandle the guy on the floor. The two jobs worth security guys didn't like that so then they got nasty with the guy that intervened. The two homeless guys ended up walking out about 6 in the morning. I was sitting beside a couple who were disgusted with the actions of the security guys which was nice to see.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know it's not on par with Wayne Couzens but it's clear that this is symptomatic of the very same rot that is deep.

It also appears those higher up the food chain aren't up to the job of preventing recruitment of these inadequate police members (I deliberately avoid Officers as they aren't worthy).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"It's only a few bad apples" Mate the saying is one bad apple spoils the bunch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Sadly, one decent apple doesn't cure the bunch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is my city and I’m ashamed, but not shocked.

I’ve had an argument with the police before for refusing homeless people access to the local library bathrooms, as apparently some people will use drugs. Like we can ban everybody who looks homeless because of the actions of some.

Some cops will drag you through Manchester City centre, should we ban them all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

May as well ban MPs from using the HoC bathrooms, if that was the justification.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"I'm sorry but you're going to have to poo outside, lest you be taking drugs in the toilet"

Wtf are they expecting to prevent, anyway?

"OK officer you got me, I was going to use drugs. But since you've refused me entry into these loos I'm going to quit. I'm totally not going to take them outside instead, where it's even less hygienic and in potential view of the public."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

To add some context, it was central library in St Peter’s Square and I believe some people had caused damage to the toilets with the drug use, not that I condone all people being banned.

Plus you can bet if you’re refused access to a toilet and decide well I’ll have to piss somewhere, they’ll fine you for pissing in the street. And yes they would give a homeless person a fine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why is a Manc using a dirty, rotten, filthy Gerry user account?

Do you have no honour? No decency?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

German you wazzock! Gerry-German.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is one of the weirdest interactions I've ever seen online

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Right. I am one of the parties involved and confused.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

My art teacher in secondary school once called me a "freak". 🙂

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As a born and bred Manc, I’ve got love for all nations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Aaaw that's sweet. 🥰

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

"The superintendent responsible for the city centre personally discussed the incident with the officer and made it clear that her actions were unacceptable and must not be repeated.

"She, along with other employees, received refresher training on how to deal with similar situations in the future."

I have no words.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said the incident "must not be repeated" after the video, obtained by BBC News, came to light.

Matt Downie, chief executive Crisis, said the officer's actions were awful, adding: "It's appalling to see such dehumanising treatment of people rough sleeping.

In November a man sleeping in an underpass in Birmingham was set alight and in December footage emerged of security guards at a McDonald's restaurant in London soaking a rough sleeper.

Referring to the video of the police officer, the deputy mayor of Greater Manchester, Kate Green, said these were "clearly very distressing images".

The Sudanese man who was dragged by the officer said he had now found accommodation and had received an apology from the force.

"The superintendent responsible for the city centre personally discussed the incident with the officer and made it clear that her actions were unacceptable and must not be repeated.


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