We talking driving or walking?
Walking? I don’t. I go straight, looking exactly where I’m going, with good posture and a slight urgency in my step.
People move.
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Both, but more often left than right.
I drive a motorcycle -- in my country the law is that bikes and traditional vehicles stay to the right and cars to the left. So to the right is generally a curb. To the left I leave enough space for someone to pass me or for me dodge optimists.
Where I live, we drive on the right, but pass on the left, so I do that. For stationary or oncoming obstacles, go right; for passing things moving the same direction as me, go left.
Go right. It’s a human standard.
I don't drive, but I imagine I'd go left since people where I am drive on the right side of the road. I wouldn't want to look like Spongebob now would I?
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I find that if I just pick a direction, keep walking in that direction, and crucially look away from the person (stillkeeping them in peripheral, but not obviously looking where I'm going) it almost always works out.
It's when both people start correcting for the other that the problem arises.
It's when both people start correcting for the other that the problem arises.
Only if those people are ignorant of the “go right” rule. If both people go right, it works.
I have a friend who moved to the US from India. He says when he first got here he was frequently bumping into people in hallways and sidewalks, because his instinct was to move to the left, and as he eventually figured out, the US instinct was to move to the right.
The only reason we could come up with was driving sides and the India/British left side vs. US right side. Because he wasn't constantly bumping into people in India, lol.
I had this experience in Japan. Just walking around, I would unconsciously start drifting to the right. My friend had to yank me back into position a few times to avoid collision. He was so mad at me, like: "how can you not remember?"
But it was completely unconscious, especially since I was also looking around at something.
Heh, an interesting suggestion to link these two.
I don’t understand how these could not be connected. In a question of which way people go to avoid collisions, it only makes sense to look at which way people go to avoid collisions.
But how are they connected? My country drives on the left, so should I move left to avoid oncoming traffic and to the right to overtake? If the connection was so strong then we should have different instincts depending on the context, not one single direction we always choose.
I am not convinced by this argument at all. For me, anyway, it depends on the the space available, where they are, which way I'm headed, which way they're headed, etc.
Consider computational efficiency though.
You can consider all those variables you mentioned, but it takes more memory and processing cycles to do so.
The benefit of an automatic go-left rule, a standard in the same way USB, the keyboard layout, and the alphabet song are also standards, is that it doesn’t take computational resources to decide on a solution. As long as the standard describes a working system, the inefficiency of its match to the myriad situations in terms of execution, is made up for in terms of efficiency of the process of deciding on that solution for that given situation.
USB as standard pays for itself by allowing us to buy computers and peripherals without having to think about connectors. Both of those things can be designed without effort spent on those decisions.
Always going the same way works well enough in almost all 2D navigation contexts that it creates a reliable way to avoid collisions at a societal level. In the ethernet standard , where there is no right or left because it’s a 1D context, they’re forced into a different anti-collision strategy: wait a random amount of time then try again to send. It’s less efficient than “take one step left, then proceed”.
I’m rambling. I hope you get the point. Standards save computational resources by loosely fitting a simple line to a complex data set, but in design space. There’s error, but it’s within acceptable range and has benefits in a different dimension.
For me, at least, it correlates to the direction that provides the widest/least obstructed/most visibly clear/least disruptive/least hazardous direction to give onward travel. Clearly the direction that that boils down to varies according to the individual situation.
I don't recall being alone with a single central obstruction in the middle of an otherwise deserted and symmetrical street with no other influencing factors enough times to have noted any innate bias on my part.
From a US pov, I go to the right. Why? Not necessarily because that's how drivers are etablished for road travel but because of where I'll be located on a sidewalk in relation to these drivers. If I'm on the right sode of the road, the drivers approach from behind. I stay to the right to stay further away from what I don't see coming. If on the left, I stay to the right because I can see what's coming but other's walking in the same direction of traffic can't see what approaches them from behind. I get really lost at going into building that have their entrance doors on the left/exits on the right.