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The Wire is my all time favorite. Currently watching The Shield and while it’s not bad, it’s more of an edgy Law and Order type cop show.

I don’t think anything truly measures up to The Wire but just wanted to hear about anyone else’s recommendations.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The Sopranos.

Widely considered to be the show that kicked off the gritty drama series' like The Wire, Breaking Bad, Deadwood, etc.

I think The Shield deserves a bit of credit for that, too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

The Americans

Deep cover Soviet spies in the 80s, living like a normal American family, when an FBI Counter-Intelligence agent moves in across the street, and they become "friends."

Like Breaking Bad, you are placed in a position of rooting for the enemy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

The Leftovers

12 Monkeys (season 1 is basically the movie)

Black Sails

Don’t watch the new netflix show Zero Day it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Don't sleep on Orange is the new black.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Deadwood. Show starts with a bang and then the 1st season takes its time to introduce characters and what motivates them. Then the next two season takes a deep, detailed dive into those varied lives in that richly detailed setting. Stellar performances by many top tier actors as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

This was one of my suggestions as well.

I always watched it with captions because the Shakespearian-ish language could be hard to follow sometimes. Not in a bad way, it was actually fun. I remember a scene where the dumb mayor is getting his orders from Swearingen, and finally whines in frustration (paraphrasing) "I don't understand what you are talking about!"

Truly great show in evey way - writing, directing, acting, production design, costumes, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ve always thought about this and heard it’s pretty stellar but wanted something to binge a bit more than 2 seasons. They did make a follow up movie some years later right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

There are three season and a movie released a couple of years later that nicely ties up a lot of loose ends

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Succession.

its almost unbearable in its ugliness, i love it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I say this. Succession is truly the only show that comes any close to the realism and impact of The Wire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very few shows measure up. One I haven’t seen mentioned that I liked more than I expected was Treme. I think it was created by the same team as the wire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Treme is superb.
Very much unknown and underrated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The sopranos.Up there with how good as the acting is the wire.Plus i think it has more watchabillty.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I watched The Sorpranos twice but maybe it’s time for a 3rd viewing. Although I might rewatch GoT again before I explore that…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Crime shows: Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Mind Hunter, Homicide: Life on the Streets

Sci-fi: Travelers, season 1 of Altered Carbon, The Expanse, Firefly, Stargate SG-1

Comedy: Limitless, Community, Better Off Ted, Archer, Arrested Development, King of the Hill

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Limitless is a comedy? I read the book and saw the movie, and neither was a comedy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is only one season of Altered Carbon

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, and there is no last season of Game of Thrones or True Blood lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'd add Andor to the sci-fi section, it's exceptionally good.

Common Side Effects, too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Nice to see a Star Wars series that wasn't about the Jedi, for a change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

And Scavengers Reign.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Le Bureau des Légendes. Or "The Bureau". Truly believable spies TV series. It's been adapted very poorly and soulless as The Agency, but the French original remains some of the very top notch TV. I'm not French but i couldn't stop watching this thing.

Also, Slow Horses is great too, but how they seem to need to up the ante each season is making it a bit hard to believe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Hmmm hadn’t heard of this one. I will look into it. Thanks for the rec!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Le bureau des légendes" spoiled every spy shows for me. It's soul wrenching.

And "Slow Horses" was gritty and enthralling.

We've got the same taste! Any other shows you'd advise?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, we got a bit spoiled after The Bureau I'm afraid. But before I saw this, I would have recommended you many of the many John Le Carré novel adaptations, and there's quite a few: The Night Manager, and maybe also The Little Drummer Girl

(These are movies) Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, The Constant Gardener

There's quite a bunch more, and many of them are really good. Of course, I also recommend reading his novels, too, as he's an ex-MI5/MI6 himself, before turning to writing.

And then I'd like to throw in another I consider really great... I've also enjoyed the sadly cancelled TV show, a mix between sci-fi and cold-war spying plots Counterpart. It's two seasons, and it's a pity that it ends prematurely because it was a really interesting world-building. A lot of very good actors on this one. I'd still recommend a watch even if it ends in a disappointing unfinished cliffhanger.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Wire is a show like they don’t really make anymore, requiring you to pay attention and take it in. It can’t be binged and must be taken in slowly which is antithesis of most of modern TV, even the prestige shows don’t slow down for world building like that these days.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They lost me that season he was in prison, but they tried to trick you that he wasn't. They try too hard to mindfuck and be deep in that show

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah I remember watching the first season back when it came out. I need to pick it back up!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Contemporary with the Wire is the Sopranos. Rewatched it not too long ago and it really stands up (skipping over a spectacularly misjudged vfx shot in season 2). Apologies if this is an obvious one!

Now hear me out on this next one, but the original series of Babylon 5 was way way ahead of its time in terms of a recurring storyline. Again the effects are a product of the times but the writing is excellent, I think.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Deadwood
Slow Horses

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Wire is also my favorite. I think I know how you feel because no show ever seems to hold up to it.

That being said, The Sopranos had some incredible writing and character development.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I should’ve listed I’ve seen what most people consider the masterpieces like The Sorpranos. Certainly one of my favorites!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

To me, peaky blinders, top boy, and although shorter snabba cash had a similar sprawling storyline following the different characters and how they interacted through the different layers of society as well as over time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. They're close, but still not the same level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I had seen breaking bad originally but recently rewatched it and then binged Better Call Saul. They were both super great!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's been a while since I watched it so not sure how it has stood the test of time, but Oz made a big impression on me. Brutal, but great TV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I’ve thought about giving it a go but I’ve also heard his hasn’t aged so well.