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  • Apple's progress with Siri and artificial intelligence has been slow, and features promised in June remain delayed.
  • At a Siri team meeting, senior director Robby Walker acknowledged the frustration within the team, describing the delays as "ugly."
  • Features like Siri understanding personal context and taking action based on a user’s screen are still not ready and may not make it into iOS 19.
  • Challenges include quality issues that caused these features to malfunction up to a third of the time and conflicts with Apple's marketing division over showcasing incomplete features.
  • Apple has withdrawn related advertisements and added disclaimers on its website, citing extended development times.
  • Senior executives, including Craig Federighi and John Giannandrea, are reportedly taking personal accountability for the delays.
  • Walker emphasized that the team’s work is impressive and that the delayed features will be released once they meet Apple’s standards.
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

does anyone buy a product for AI or Assistant features?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some people bought scam pins/portable assistant that is actually a butchered phone thing, so, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Tech bros and "influencers" don't count. We're talking about real people. All of those devices failed because no one other than those seeking to ride the bleeding edge of technology actually are interested. The most anyone want Siri or Google Assistant to do is set alarms, set appointments, and pick-up/hang-up the phone when you're on speaker. Sometimes it's nice to ask it to do a search but the original versions of these did that fine until they started "improving" them with "AI".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

A) No executives anywhere are taking personal accountability for anything

B) I upgraded from the 12 to the 16 for Apple Intelligence and I have yet to see it offer value. A substantial portion of hey Siri voice requests return with “I’m sorry I didn’t get that” even when using the voice transcription feature gets the words right

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago

Marketing over promising and making it developments problem. A tale as old as time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Terrible voice assistant. I preferred Google assistant, but even that is becoming slow.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They neutered Google Assistant because it was costing too much money. Now it's ass.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

They're likely also winding down development in favour of their new LLM, which certainly isn't going to help matters.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Siri is so useless. All these years and I use her to basically set timers and reminders.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I’ve added limes to the grocery list

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, here's a station just for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

SIRI CANCEL

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

‘It’s still in development’ doesn’t strike me as “dire.”

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dire as in, it was supposed to ship 6 months ago as the highlight of the iPhone 16 series.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dear god!! The end is nigh!!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

When it falls into false advertising in every market that the iPhone is sold, it is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)
  • Take screenshot of screen
  • Send screenshot to Claude 3.7 or any other decent chatbot. Even GPT-3 is light years smarter than current Siri, but I don’t know it if can analyze images
  • Run Claude’s response through a text-to-Siri-speech layer

There, now Siri can see your screen. Why can’t Apple accomplish this? Why are megacorps so inept?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

This is the most defensible point. Designing APIs to determine what content on your screen is ok to send to a third party (Apple offers ChatGPT integration) is a decent amount of work.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Spend 5 minutes creating a bash script

Spend 5 billion dollars on an overly complicated summarizer

Why the fuck would I wanna write bash

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah let's keep it POSIX

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This whole thing is a textbook example of how bad shady marketing today and can really cause you a lot of pain tomorrow. If Apple had not been so quick to let PR write checks their ass was not ready to cash the conversation around Siri would still just be the casual jokes about it sucking, and not more serious public blackeyes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

"Taking personal accountablility", but not a paycheck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ok… this is what it is I suppose, every business wants to be on the AI train, but, this seems like an opportunity to make the next iPhone, or at least a version of it, without AI as a selling point.

I’d be very happy indeed to have an option that was entirely devoid of, and incompatible with, any form of AI and I know I’m not alone in that. Sell it as prioritizing privacy or respecting consumers desire to opt out, whatever the marketing folks come up with. But that would be my next phone in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can run an LLM on a phone from before the AI craze, it would be slow but it would still run. You can't really make a phone that isn't compatible with AI.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No, I suppose not, but just like home brew software apple can put up walls.

I guess I just mean it would be nice to be able to opt out. If I want to run an AI app, I can always set up a docker or something and run it for myself. I think at this point, I’ve just got AI fatigue ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That is not going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Def not, but I’ll keep day dreaming :)

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