'They own what happens next': Enraged AOC slams Senate Dems over 'inexplicable abdication' : usa

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well her ire is welcomed despite it being late as fuck

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Chuck you fuckin fuck you. Always plenty of Democrats to give Republicans what they want, and then when the shoe is on the foot they pretend to be overpowered at every step. Ohh won't someone not think of the Senate parlitarian. Fucking worthless sobs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I can understand that some people become afraid of Nazis and bend the knee, but these people didn't even put up a fight.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Democrats are past cooked. I'm not sure it will.matter to primary these losers, I don't think Dems will ever win a majority ever again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

And the consequences to them will be...???

[+] [email protected] -8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m waiting for the day that AOC is president and Lemmy starts painting her like Obama. Never good enough…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Contentment got us here.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Content with saying everyone is terrible and not having any shade of difference. Content with saying everything is shameful… content that everything is genocide. Content that everything is just as bad as anything…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Content with saying everyone is terrible and not having any shade of difference.

Content with so little difference. Content with a margin that never changes as centrists chase fascists to the right because they want to move right, with the pretext that they'll gain republican voters by abandoning people they've always wanted to abandon.

Content with second worst to fascism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I can dig the shift and the discontent. It’s a trend that is not okay. But I do not see Obama as evidence of the wrong thing. You do what you can and when you more or less call the last great democratic president a sell out you more or less sell out an entire generation just for talking points.

If you are saying that admin was second worst to fascism then you are telling everyone you live in hyperbole. Everything is fascism as at that point and thus fascism has no meaning any more. Everything is fascism everything is genocide and nothing has nuance… all presidents will kill you nothing matters and every vote is vote for genocide.

More non voters sat out the last election than those voted for trump. To repeat that… for the back seats…

People who noped out for “reasons” elected trump. They outnumbered actual trump voters. There were more non voting voters than actual trump voters….

So keep telling everyone how shitty it is and how you’d prefer a false equivalence compared to civic participation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

But I do not see Obama as evidence of the wrong thing

Obama would negotiate before he got to the table. It's why the ACA started out as a Heritage Foundation proposal.

You do what you can and when you more or less call the last great democratic president a sell out you more or less sell out an entire generation just for talking points.

He was the last one who approached being good. All candidates since have been cynical "we're second worst and you have to vote for us" candidates.

If you are saying that admin was second worst to fascism then you are telling everyone you live in hyperbole.

Obama was the last time centrists didn't get the candidate they wanted. And unlike the progressives you hate, when centrists were faced with the prospect of not getting 100% of everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

People who noped out for “reasons” elected trump.

Have you ever considered not providing reasons? Have you considered that your voters expect things of you? That solidarity runs both ways? That touting the endorsement of dick cheney was a fucking mistake?

You got 100% of everything you wanted. Including being able to blame anyone to your left for the loss your garbage pro-genocide wing of the party worked so hard to earn. Moving to the right like your wing always does has been an abject failure in two of the past 3 elections. biden only won because he lied and pretended to want progressive policy like BBB. harris didn't even bother lying. You've hit a wall. How long do you have to continue losing to fascists before you admit that moving to the right has failed? Or is fascism preferable to such an admission?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Contentment certainly got us here…

[+] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[+] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

only if we're going to get on that john brown timing we should go in with a better plan. not saying not to go in on that john brown timing. john brown and john g fee both did important things and i think they both were recuired to make forward progress and our current problem is we haven't enough browns and we have too many fees

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