"reconsidering"?
Y'all haven't canceled all orders of everything yet? I know I would.
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It's not like buying a car. Whatever amount has historically been paid for the aircraft is probably only a small portion of the amount invested in training maintenance personnel and facilities for manufacturing parts.
They definitely need to be shifting to other options but the current tiff with the US will be over before you can start phasing out the current fleet.
"reconsidering"?
Just kill the deal. It's a security risk.
Americans will activate the kill switch on F-35s, along with all of their allies. US technology should not be trusted.
According to the subject experts I've heard on French news, there is no kill switch to immediately lock the engines or weapons. But, they can lock the software maintenance that is required at least one month and the flight planning software because both are centralized in the US, effectively crippling the planes.
Edit: detailed article https://theaviationist.com/2025/03/10/f-35-kill-switch-myth/
So instead of some cartoonish “kill switch” that instantly bricks the plane, the U.S. can simply stop updating and supporting them… and the only thing stopping them from doing so is words on paper.
If I was Canada, I’d go for the Gripen.
I don't think America withdrawing support would actually "turn off" the planes.
Switzerland general guy was saying that manufacturing parts and updates and so on is done in partnership, with many countries sharing the responsibility.
That makes complete sense when you think about it. If your country is paying billions to some american company, firstly you don't want them to be able to turn you off any time, and secondly you want some local manufacturing to improve your own economy and train your own people.
Any reporting I've read says the US withdrawing support would be painful but wouldn't ground fleets.
the only thing stopping them from doing so is words on paper.
I mean, ultimately, that's all that any contract is.
Also, even if both were offloaded, maintenance requires a long supply chain leading to the US. (Which is fine and dandy if you are the US—after all, the US military’s world-spanning logistics, which in peacetime can famously keep troops in the farthest corners of the world supplied with the comforts of home, is a marvel—though not so good if you’re an ally with any doubts about your standing with the US.) Now that the US’s reliability as a partner is in question, so is the safety of relying on such an arrangement.
That’s good news.