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Found this one online while browsing for what cats shouldn't eat. However I feel like this area is quite controversial and opinionated. Also feels like half the websites are written by AI and riddled with ads. So if anyone has a good source as to what cats should avoid then let me know.

Anyways, I found this nice illustration, but wanted to hear with you peeps whether you have any experience regarding these food items.

Also what's your take on milk/sour milk for cats? My previous cat loved it so much, and she aged until she was 17 years old, and never seemed to have a problem with it. Also asked the vet at the time and she said it was OK. However every other website I visit tell to never give milk(dairy) to cats. So which is it? Does it just depend on the cat?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Sure - AN ENTIRE FUCKING TURKEY

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I'd argue grapes are worse than onions and garlic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile, the cats in my neighborhood: b Pigeons? Food! Rats? Food!

Blessed be those vermin exterminators.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Grapes are toxic to cats (and dogs). Onions and garlic are both toxic, and will absolutely kill your cats. Ice cream usually has small amounts of antifreeze in it; it's safe enough for humans, but not safe for cats. Raw chicken with bones can be given to cats if it is finely ground so that there aren't any bone shards or fragments. You can get frozen turkey and chicken chicks from raw food suppliers, and those are safe enough for cats to eat because the bones are mostly too small to harm them. (Raw food is not suggested for most cats; it's hard to get it balanced so that they aren't malnourished in some way. A very, very few cats will do better on a raw food diet if they have something like IBS.) Lots of common house plants can be deadly to cats too. One I know off the top of my head is everything in the lily family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ice cream usually has small amounts of antifreeze in it

Weird. I read a bit about it and it seems true. It's not technically antifreeze but also is technically antifreeze. When I think of antifreeze I think of the orange or green liquid in cars. This liquid is clear and also in many vaporizors (ecigs and carts).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It's because otherwise your ice cream will freeze as hard as a rock. If you make your own, you probably won't use any.

You could probably make your own ice cream that was perfectly safe for cats and dogs. I think that goat milk is better for cats? You certainly couldn't use any artificial sweeteners though; real cane sugar or honey only.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Why can't they have raw chicken assuming it's been deboned? They would naturally eat chickens in the wild and I pretty sure they're not cooking it first. I've given my cats scraps of raw chicken (along with other meats) my whole life and it was never an issue.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I think the concern is pathogens from the meat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Why even deboned? Dogs will crunch the whole thing and a cooked chicken bone can splinter (I heard even bird bones raw are okay) but won't a cat pick the meat off?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I love the "pretty sure" here

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Always hedge your bets. This is the Internet. You might say something like "cats don't cook food" and then someone will come along and reply with a picture of a cat grilling a hot dog.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol, our cat gets lots of random raw meat, yogurt, ice cream or really any leftovers, which often enough includes onions in the sauce, anything she doesn't refuse to eat outright and she's still surprisingly healthy at 15 years old.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think the main danger with raw meat is harmful bacteria (salmonela, listeria, e coli, etc). Basically the same things that make people sick if they're present and we don't cook the meat properly. They aren't always present, but it's kind of a gamble to keep feeding a cat raw meat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But how do animals without homes learn to cook their meat?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

People that have been found in peat bogs are almost always heavily infested with intestinal parasites, and fecal material found at archeological sites show significant signs of parasitic infections as well, because even once we cooked food we often didn't have acceptable food safety (or, y'know, refrigeration). Truth is that cats in the wild just constantly have tons of parasites and get sick a lot, and sometimes die from it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'll definitely keep that in mind as something to watch out for in what my cat eats. You know, once he finally gets done eating 1,000 mice and comes inside for some extra food...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

You do you. But just so you know, cats that are allowed to free range outside have a life expectancy, on average, about 1/3rd that of an indoor-only cat. Killing and eating wildlife is one of the reasons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

As a barn cat owner, everything on that list goes down the cats. They are my cleanup crew. Especially chicken bones as I don't trust the dogs with them.

No cat has ever choked on bones or become sick from eating scraps. If there are things like onions, they just don't eat them. In fact none of my cats have ever died of anything other than being eaten by coyotes or run over by trucks 😥

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

What about my cables, flip-flops and my backpack? Scratches seems to love eating these.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

what do you mean by tuna is occasional, but rice and corn are sure? Cats can't digest rice and corn, wtf?

Also raw chicken is never? Maybe in the USA only. We in other parts of the world vaccinate our chickens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My cat loves cheese

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Mine too!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Here's one for dogs just in case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

THE SAND

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

ALL THE SAND.

(it is definitely too sand)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Now that gave me a good chuckle 😁

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