Hell yes! Fuck google!
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And this worked so well with Microsoft back in the day. (It didn't)
i really distrust Google and I'm glad about the verdict. I do agree that chrome and android should be ~~cut off models~~.
edit: cut off from advertising business models
on the other hand, like with Firefox, I'm worried about the instability and changes that are coming, mainly in the effect on fork projects Like Graphene, Calyx, Lineage, any privacy-focused Chrome forks, and of course Chromium.
DOJ probably isn't able to guarantee chrome & potentially android are taken over by totally ethical, stable companies/NPOs who will keep the projects open source, or allow an open source offshoot project to which the new organization would still contribute coding people-hours.
I'm sure there will be some sort of guarantees for stock chrome and android users, like paid services/subscriptions will be continued or refunded.
but what about users of community projects based on chrome and Android?
many other Lemmy users have commented how community projects don't really have the resources to keep browser engines up to date, let alone innovate. without Google (which i think is a good thing), Microsoft Edge team could become the de facto direction-setter of Chronium (which i think is really really really bad).
TL;DR the foss mobile OS community, and especially the foss browser community (considering Firefox funding shortfall and AI/ad revenue pursuits) are possibly f*ed in the a for the near term.
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Good. Now do Amazon.
Interesting. Why focus on selling chrome? I’m not sure I understand the DOJ here. Google could end Chrome and continue updating chromium instead of selling if not for this directive. Given they are approved to continue working on chromium I don’t see why the sale is being forced.
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Google says government proposals would "harm America’s consumers."
Says the company that couldn't stand by the core value "don't be evil".
Musk will be champing at the bit to own a controlling share of both of these. It disgusts me to agree with them but they're right. This is the single worst possible time to try and push this through.
This is the single worst possible time to try and push this through.
Which is why it's happening now, I agree.
But we, the non-billionaires are still better off after any monopoly split. It's hard to express how incredibly bad powerful monopolies are. The fact that another billionaire will be the buyer sucks, but it's no reason to back away from forcing the legally required split.
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Google is awful, but any other company that could afford to buy and run Chrome would be worse.
Any alternative is better than letting monopolies stand.
Sounds a lot like, "Biden & Harris support genocide, so let's vote for Trump."
The spoiler effect doesn't apply in this scenario. We aren't stuck with 2 choices, either Chrome under Google or Chrome under another shitty corporate.
If Chrome enshittifies, we have Firefox, Librewolf, Brave, Ironfox, Waterfox, Ungoogle Chromium, etc...
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Preferring that we enforce our laws regardless of which billionaire benefits is a vote for Trump? I didn't realize that. I've seen the light now. Thank you.
We can't continue selectively enforcing our laws against monopolies. (This is just dark humor. Citizens United is for the express purpose of ensuring that any anti-monopoly law enforcement we get is selective and political, for the rest of however long the US has left.)
I think what they were saying is: two powerful, competing corpos is better than one huge and practically omnipotent corporation, which is what google currently is.
Under normal circumstances, but i just have this suspicion that Musk will buy it using Russian and Saudi funding like was rumored for where he got the funding for Twitter.
So whether that would be a better situation I guess is up to interpretation.
That's how blow back works dear...
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Heaven forbid it becomes its own company/a non profit.
Non profit under this US administration who's mantra is what rules? Seems highly optimistic. I see it being more likely that Musk takes the opportunity to try and get the most popular browser and phone OS that is used world wide.
100% guaranteed Musk is going to try and wrangle a controlling share of Android. Probably Chrome too but definitely Android. He desperately wants to be in your pockets snooping on your text messages and harvesting your contact data.
Yeah seeing how elated he is being an absolute asshole with starlink he must be bursting with joy at the thought of chrome and android in his possession too.
Microsoft Chrome - now with Cortana!
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If they really wanted to change the character of the company, spin off the ad and cloud businesses into two separate things and let them figure out the rest.
Looks like Google didn't bend the knee enough.
They'll bend eventually. Money does that.
Remember when DeSantis went to war with Disney? And Disney destroyed him and any chance he had to being a presidential candidate and we all cheered? Then Disney went around to make allegiance with all the non-DeSantis Republicans?
It's all money for stockholders at the end of the day. Not people, not who sits at the throne.
But people are the shareholders.
Corporations are the shareholders they care about, people like you and mean never own a majority of a company's stocks
They care about all shareholders as it is the law.
What I'm saying is that when you say "people are the shareholders", they're not the shareholders that matter. BlackRock, Vanguard, Fidelity, these are the shareholders that major publically traded companies care about. They might technically need to care about retail investors as well, in the end they're not the ones who have the power to sway the votes one way or another.
Lizards are not people
The DOJ is asking the court to force Google to promptly and fully divest itself of Chrome, along with any data or other assets required for its continued operation. It is essentially aiming to take the Chrome user base—consisting of some 3.4 billion people—away from Google and hand it to a competitor
Fuck yes, shatter that shit.
Yeah but is it Elon&friends who will get to buy it?
The optimist in me hopes not, but only time will tell.
If he does i hope he tanks it so badly that it loses a huge chunk of market share - ideally when ladybird is ready.
Is ladybird some FF replacement?
It's a completely built from scratch browser https://ladybird.org/, very exciting.
There's also https://servo.org/ (was mozilla but now linux foundation), but it seems to be going slower.
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Shatter it and probably have it bought out by Elon.
Elon's a dunce, so he'll probably enshittify it so badly that people will leave. So google is weakened and chrome dies (at least, i hope in a good outcome)
That regular people would stop using chrome if it turned into xhrome is highly unlikely. These are people who browse without adblocker, use facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and buy Amazon echos. It'd just lead to Doge influencing the direction of xhromium based browsers.
True :( but we've seen how stupid he is, and now bluesky has become xitter's #1 competitor because of his incompetence. Maybe, maybe, maybe...
Seriously. The only people willing to pay what it's "worth" will end up doing the same thing (or worse).
What we need are some actual privacy laws with teeth, so that the data isn't worth as much to begin with.
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Xoogle and Xdroid run by doge.
Oh god.. No!
If that happened which would not surprise me with how ridiculous US government has been I'd be open to using Samsung's Tizen over Doge controlled and influenced Xdroid.