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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

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Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just have some peaceful protesters staying on the other side of the street and have them in shifts, do nothing else. Waste the police resources until they give up and leave.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I dont understand targeting the Tesla dealers. Short term, I would think insurance would be a revenue recognition bonanza. Longer term, if violence continues, insurance rates would increase, so there's potential expense drag there.

All I'm saying is that targeting the commodity is misplaced aggression.

Maybe I am thinking about it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Individual acts will never overshadow an organized movement. But individual acts may stoke the public consciousness, though they can also stoke those in power. It's a tightrope to be sure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I think that Tesla doesn't have a typical dealer network and they own their dealers which gave them a lot of trouble from the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's about ssending a message

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Red rover red rover, send molotov right over

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Man, look at that pile of tax money.

So I guess, if you want to commit a real crime you just threaten the Tesla dealership then go do your business elsewhere

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Who is going into that location to buy a car in these circumstances. That line of police is just as effective as any vandalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Tbh, yeah, this is a great point

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bo Burnham's How the works works seems to be an appropriate anthem right now

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Rdx user spotted, automatically based

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Look at all those short fat slobs. I bet theirs at least one punisher tattoo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Protecting wealth. The rest of us can get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

the cops aren't there to protect the everyday person. they're there to protect the wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The previous comment... is a longer version of what you had originally stated?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Police, on the wrong side of everything, since the start of time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (10 children)

They had no choice in the matter. I am willing to bet no one wanted to stand there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cue: David Attenborough

"And here we see Dora the Explorer on an acid trip. Notice how she's completely incapable of resisting licking her monkey, Boots. Even Swiper feels sorry for poor, wet, Boots."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Look closer. Closer. See the chains? Me fucking either. Gawkgawk that boot deeper.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yes Police are all slaves that have no option other than obey their masters

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I often have to do things that I wouldn’t want to do at my job.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Poor summer child....

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

If I were the chief of Chicago PD and somebody called in a bomb threat I'd place, maybe, a patrol car or 2 nearby.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a famous movie scene about nazis, cars and illinois?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I hate Illinois nazis

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know, that's an opportunity.

Any time attention is focused on one place, there's less on another.

Take the moment and target something else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Chicago has a pretty big police force unfortunately. Looks like around 12- 13k little piggies (source)

So about 25 cops here leaves... roughly 12- 13k cops in the rest of the city :P

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would probably work if there wasn't a ridiculous overabundance of cops in just about all American cities.

As it is, there's enough of them to function as a private security force for billionaires (their primary raison d'être) in greater numbers than usual like this without neglecting any of their usual oppression of minorities, poor people, and especially combinations thereof.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unless these cops are in superposition, they can't be both protecting Tesla and, say, in their actual cars.

Their numbers are finite.

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In Minecraft. Always in Minecraft.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Their numbers are finite, yes. However, those finite numbers are much larger than they need to be and society would be much better and safer for the vast majority of people if there were almost none of them.

Not in Minecraft.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Somehow I don't think that'll draw in customers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Bullies group with bigger bullies. More at ten.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least they protect them from the customers too :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you're on to something... The pigs are protecting the public from the evil oligarch's company.

Yea, that's the ticket!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

The optics on this are great. Any potential customer is reminded that if they buy a t*sla, they earn a target on their back

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