It lowers the value. If plenty of fairly new Teslas can be found fairly cheap, it will disincentivize people who do want a Tesla from buying new. Hopefully takes the stock price down, which is what most of Pres. Musk's wealth is based on.
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While I agree with the sentiment, if the face-value goal of this note becomes true, this has the same vibe as "Sell it to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?"
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Polestar is Chinese, since Volvo is Chinese.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Shufu
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That's the type of note that I would set fire to and drive away lol.
Imagine telling someone they need to sell their car because of something someone else did.
Y'all are straight up delusional at this point.
And to be clear I think the cybertruck is a fuck ugly piece of shit vehicle that doesn't do anything very well, but I also don't think anyone has the right to tell other people what cars they can and cannot drive.
I know freedom of speech is meaniless in america now... but at one point, you had the right to say anything to someone. Now rather said speech carried conquences, well...
You guys have the right to say whatever you want. It's the defacing/damaging of property where you guys lose me. If you wanna stand out front of a Tesla store and tell about how shitty the truck is and how much you despise Elon to right ahead. When you nutjobs starts shooting the stores or setting them in fire that's where you lose me.
We still have freedom of speech and people are still free to ignore you when you yell ridiculous nonsense.
Speaking of nutjobs... good job at putting words in my mouth and showing your bias.
I didn't put words in your mouth. You literally said "freedom of speech doesn't mean anything in America anymore".
And I figured my first comment was pretty clear about where I stand on these things. I am biased against the majority of people on this sub because they are insane.
You guys have the right to say whatever you want. It's the defacing/damaging of property where you guys lose me. If you wanna stand out front of a Tesla store and tell about how shitty the truck is and how much you despise Elon to right ahead. When you nutjobs starts shooting the stores or setting them in fire that's where you lose me.
What or who does "you guys" refer to? Pretend english isnt my first language.
....the people of this sub? I thought that was clear from the context of this conversation but I guess not.
And before you give me some bullshit about everyone in the sub not thinking exactly the same I know that. When I say "you guys" I mean the majority of people on the sub. Those people appear to be in support of publicly damaging someone else's private property through some twisted mental moral gymnastics. I was referring to those people.
The context of this conversation started from OP posting a letter reccommending the CT owner to sell it and avoid the hassle... and then your response:
Imagine telling someone they need to sell their car because of something someone else did.
I responded that people have freedom of speech and that there is nothing was wrong with the picture... you immediately jumped to vandalism, which is out of context from anything being discussed.
i mean. wouldnt rebadging it and putting a "fuck elon" bumper sticker be more of a message than selling it to another sucker?
(also ripping out the spyware laden computer system that reports all activity INCLUDING CAMERAS back to hitlerHQ and can remotely disable your car)
On your second point: unfortunately that’s the system that makes the car go
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I honestly don't understand what selling it does though. The same amount of teslas are still on the streets. Please help me understand.
Previous owners that gave money to Musk can distance themselves from him, while new owners that believe Teslas are good can buy one without giving money to Musk.
I'm in the market for a car and there is an amount of money I would spend for a used Tesla despite the potential for vandalism etc. I don't think there is an amount of money I'd spend on a new one
I read it as a funny, polite, "fuck you". It's only going to piss someone off who bought a Tesla as a sign of status and is still a fan of Elon Musk. Everyone else will see it either as helpful but misguided or will get the joke.
Cars are worth what someone is willing to pay. More used cars on the market means lower prices means fewer new cars are purchased. The biggest drop in value on any car (bigotry aside) happens at mile 1 when you drive it off the lot. But manufacturers love scarcity when there is high demand, so some manufacturers explicitly forbid buyers from selling their cars (Tesla and Ferrari are the only ones I know of, but there may be more.) If you want one, you must buy it new, and you better buy it quick because it won't last. They don't want buyers leaving the lot and shopping around, they want to create an atmosphere of panic and exclusivity.
Fortunately, they cannot enforce the requirements that you don't sell your car. What they can do is refuse to sell you another one, which Ferrari is famous for doing. With Tesla, if you're selling because you don't want to be associated with Nazis, you're not going to care if the Nazis won't sell you another car. Yes, you're probably selling to another Nazi, but most people cannot afford to simply abandon or scrap a functioning* car on principle. Selling is the next best thing, as it undercuts the aura of scarcity, drives the price down, and reduces the number of new cars sold.
If enough people try to get rid of their Teslas the Used value will crash and bring the New value even further down.
That was observed when Elon in his brilliance secured the Hertz deal and then slashed new Tesla prices. Leaving Hertz no choice but to dump their inventory.
The sell off from Hertz hurt the used value because it was a large supply of "We just want out, we already lost money on these"
The advice isn't about reducing the number of Teslas. It's about helping someone get out of owning one. Also, that money doesn't go to Elon, it goes to the seller, so to some people, they might consider that part a wash.
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It always warms my heart to see actionable lists.
Even pointless ones that don't result in fewer of the thing existing? Selling it just means passing off the note to the next person.
....no, it results in the seller no longer owning it. That is the only point.
I keep seeing this talking point, and I can't tell if it's just bad faith propaganda, or if so many people really are this obtuse.
Where did anyone get the idea that selling a car because the head of the company is a Nazi is intended to reduce the number of extant cars? It's such a specifically stupid argument that I have a hard time believing more than one person came up with it on their own. It's like if you were debating coke vs pepsi, and suddenly there were hundreds of people chiming in, "Have you tried standing on your head and peeing into your own mouth?" It's neither intelligent nor relevant in any way. That's what you sound like. Having one person say it is weird, but seeing multiple comments makes you wonder if you're not just mindlessly repeating something somebody told you to say.
The meme is suggesting passing the thing along to the next person who will then be the target. Like selling a nazi uniform to someone else who will wear it instead, it wxchanged hands but is atill around.
It is an obvious possible first take, not some mysterious coordinated pooh poohing of a meme.
it's like if you were debating coke vs pepsi, and suddenly there were hundreds of people chiming in, “Have you tried standing on your head and peeing into your own mouth?” It’s neither intelligent nor relevant in any way. That’s what you sound like.
This both makes zero sense as a comparison and shows you lack reading comprehension skills.
I agree, you're making zero sense. Nazis didn't make money selling uniforms. Maybe Hugo Boss did, but that's not at all analogous to a car.
The point is not to destroy a uniform, the point is to stop driving a Nazi car. If someone wants a Nazi car, they can either buy a new one or buy a used one. If there are more used Nazi cars available, then this drives the price down, reduces the aura of scarcity, and reduces the number of new Nazi cars sold, and thus reduces the amount of money going into Nazi pockets.
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The number of them out there is erroneous. It's what perceived value they have that matters.
And the value of used cars can drastically affect the value of new cars.
Anyone buying a Tesla now, knows what they're buying, and what it can imply. Those selling are often selling to avoid the implication that comes with owning a Tesla.
The value doesn't matter if they are still around. I guess it could reduce future new sales. But if someone has a shitty thing in public and just sells it to someone else who also has it in public the end result is the shitty thing being in public.
Cool, so if the price goes down and now some less well off person who cares more about their necessary affordable transportation can buy an electric car. Do we blame them for choosing a cheap Tesla over taking a voluntary stand against Musk when they aren't giving money to Musk in the second hand market?
Other than the person who sold the car no longer having that car, what does this solve?
Less money to musk, that's what this solves. The lower the used market value, the lower the new market value.
Yes the car is still out there... what do we do. Blame everyone who bought a Tesla when they weren't implications of Nazis? Expect them to literally crush or otherwise remove the Tesla from any use?
Selling them means that more pro musk people have less money. And yes it may be a choice of cheap Tesla with being thought of a Nazi... that's what happens when you have Nazi shit.
Ideally the price of Tesla gets so low that nobody will buy new and Tesla goes out of business.
Or Tesla and musk somehow separate themselves, and Tesla is no longer a swasticar manufacturer.
Yeah, but you’re selling it to somebody who would buy a Tesla in 2025.
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